Against Celsus 6.53

Summary: Celsus confuses the church's arguments against Marcion with Christianity itself, and then charges Christians with making God the author of evil, a charge that applies equally to his own views.

Textual problem in this passage: the printed text is uncertain or disputed here. See the notes.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:123–125

Εἶτʼ οἶμαι φύρων αἱρέσεις αἱρέσεσι καὶ μὴ ἐπισημειούμενος ὅτι τάδε μὲν ἄλλης αἱρέσεώς ἐστι τάδε δὲ ἄλλης, τὰ πρὸς Μαρκίωνα ὑφʼ ἡμῶν ἀπορούμενα προφέρει, τάχα καὶ τούτων παρακούσας ἀπό τινων εὐτελῶς καὶ ἰδιωτικῶς [ἐγκαλεῖ τῶν] ἐγκαλούντων λόγῳ. οὐ μὴν πάνυ συνετῶς. ἐκτιθέμενος οὖν τὰ κατὰ Μαρκίωνος λεγόμενα καὶ μὴ ἐπισημειωσάμενος ὅτι πρὸς αὐτὸν λέγει φησί· τί δὲ λάθρα πέμπει καὶ διαφθείρει τὰ τούτου δημιουργήματα; τί δὲ εἰσβιάζεται κρύφα καὶ παραπείθει καὶ πλανᾷ; τί δὲ τοὺς ὑπὸ τούτου κατεγνωσμένους ἢ κατηραμένους, ὥς φατε, ψυχαγωγεῖ καὶ δίκην ἀνδραποδιστοῦ τινος ὑπεξάγει; τί δὲ ἀποδιδράσκειν ἀπὸ τοῦ κυρίου διδάσκει; τί δὲ φεύγειν τὸν πατέρα; τί δʼ αὐτὸς εἰσποιεῖται, μὴ συγχωροῦντος τοῦ πατρός; τί δʼ ἐπαγγέλλεται τῶν ἀλλοτρίων εἶναι πατήρ; καὶ ἐπιφέρει γε αὐτοῖς οἱονεὶ θαυμαστικῶς τό· σεμνός γε ὁ θεὸς τῶν παρʼ ἄλλῳ καταδίκων ἁμαρτωλῶν καὶ ἀκλήρων καὶ, ὡς αὐτοὶ λέγουσι, σκυβάλων ἐπιθυμῶν εἶναι πατὴρ, καὶ ὅν γε ἐξέπεμψεν, αὐτοῦ ὑπεξάγοντα, τοῦτον ἁλόντα ἐκδικῆσαι μὴ δυνάμενος. ἑξῆς δὲ τούτοις ὡσπερεὶ πρὸς ἡμᾶς τοὺς ὁμολογοῦντας οὐκ ἀλλοτρίου τινὸς εἶναι καὶ ξένου θεοῦ τόνδε τὸν κόσμον, τοιαῦτά φησιν· εἰ δὲ (αὐτοῦ) ταῦτʼ ἔστιν ἔργα, πῶς μὲν κακὰ ὁ θεὸς ἐποίει; πῶς δὲ πείθειν καὶ νουθετεῖν ἀδυνατεῖ; πῶς δʼ ἐπʼ αὐτοῖς ἀχαρίστοις καὶ πονηροῖς γενομένοις μεταμέλει καὶ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ τέχνην μέμφεται καὶ μισεῖ καὶ ἀπειλεῖ καὶ φθείρει τὰ ἴδια ἔκγονα; ἢ ποῖ ποτε ὑπεξάγει τοῦ κόσμου τοῦδε ὃν ἐποίησεν αὐτός; δοκεῖ δή μοι καὶ ἐν τούτοις μὴ σαφηνίζων, τίνα ἐστὶ τὰ κακὰ, καίτοι γε καὶ ἐν Ἕλλησι πολλῶν αἱρέσεων γενομένων περὶ ἀγαθῶν καὶ κακῶν, συναρπάζων ὡς ἀκόλουθον ἡμῖν, τοῖς φάσκουσιν ἔργα τοῦ ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεοῦ εἶναι καὶ τόνδε τὸν κόσμον, τὸ καθʼ ἡμᾶς κακῶν εἶναι ποιητὴν τὸν θεόν. ἐχέτω μὲν οὖν ὅπως ποτὲ ἔχει τὰ περὶ τῶν κακῶν, πότερον ὁ θεὸς αὐτὰ πεποίηκεν ἢ μὴ, ἀλλʼ ἐκ παρακολουθήσεως γεγένηται τῆς πρὸς τὰ προηγούμενα· θαυμάζω δὲ εἰ μὴ ὅπερ ἡμῖν, τοῖς φάσκουσιν ἔργα εἶναι τοῦ ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεοῦ καὶ τόνδε τὸν κόσμον, οἴεται ἀκολουθεῖν περὶ τοῦ τὸν θεὸν τὰ κακὰ πεποιηκέναι, ἀκολουθεῖ ὅσον ἐφʼ οἷς λέγει καὶ αὐτός. εἴποι γὰρ ἄν τις πρὸς τὸν Κέλσον· εἰ αὐτοῦ ταῦτʼ ἔστιν ἔργα, πῶς μὲν κακὰ ὁ θεὸς ἐποίει; πῶς δὲ πείθειν καὶ νουθετεῖν ἀδυνατεῖ; κακία δὲ ἡ μεγίστη ἐν λόγοις ἐστὶν, ὅτε ἐγκαλεῖ τις τοῖς ἑτεροδόξοις περί τινων δογμάτων ὡς οὐχ ὑγιῶν, πολλῷ πρότερον αὐτὸς ἔχων τὰ ἐγκλήματα ἐν τοῖς ἰδίοις δόγμασιν.

English · Claude translation

Then, I think, mixing sects with sects and not noting that these views belong to one sect and those to another, he brings forward the objections we raise against Marcion, perhaps having misunderstood these too from some who argue against him in a cheap and unlearned way, not very intelligently. Setting out, then, what is said against Marcion, and not noting that he is speaking against him, he says: Why does he send secretly and destroy the works of this one? Why does he force his way in stealthily and lead astray and deceive? Why does he beguile those who, as you say, have been condemned or cursed by this one, and carry them off like a slave-dealer? Why does he teach them to run away from their master? Why to flee from their father? Why does he adopt them himself, without the father's consent? Why does he profess to be the father of strangers? And he adds to these, as though in astonishment: A fine god indeed, who desires to be the father of sinners condemned by another, of the disinherited, and, as they themselves say, of refuse, and who is unable to punish the one he sent to carry them off from him when he was caught. Next, as though addressing us who confess that this world belongs to no alien or strange god, he says such things as this: If these are his works, how did God make evil things? How is he unable to persuade and admonish? How does he repent when men become ungrateful and wicked, and find fault with his own art, and hate and threaten and destroy his own offspring? Or where will he carry them off to out of this world, which he himself made? Here too, it seems to me, without making clear what evils are, although among the Greeks too there have been many schools of thought about goods and evils, he snatches at it as though it followed for us, who say that this world too is the work of the God over all, that in our view God is the maker of evils. Let the matter of evils be as it may, whether God made them or not, or whether they came about as a consequence of his principal works; but I wonder whether what he thinks follows for us, who say that this world too is the work of the God over all, namely that God made evils, does not follow also from what he himself says. For one might say to Celsus: If these are his works, how did God make evil things? How is he unable to persuade and admonish? And the greatest fault in argument is when someone accuses those of other views of holding unsound doctrines, while he himself has the same faults in his own doctrines much more.

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Koetschau 2:123–125 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; the problem in this passage is discussed in the notes.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
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Heresy

Notes

Translation notes

  • The allusions are to Phil 3:8 (“refuse”) and Gen 6:6–7 (God's repentance). The editor deletes the words ἐγκαλεῖ τῶν, a repetition before “who argue against him.”

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Origen, Cels. 6.53 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/6/53/).

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Origen, Cels. 6.53 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/6/53/).

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