Against Celsus 3.19
Summary: Origen objects that Celsus allows hidden meanings in Egyptian animal cults but denies any in Christian teaching, though Paul speaks of hidden wisdom taught to the mature.
Greek text · Koetschau 1:216–217
Καί φησι γε ἡμᾶς τῶν μὲν Αἰγυπτίων καταγελᾶν. καίτοι πολλὰ καὶ οὐ φαῦλα παρεχόντων αἰνίγματα, ἐπὰν ἰδεῶν ἀϊδίων καὶ οὐχ, ὡς δοκοῦσιν οἱ πολλοὶ, ζῴων ἐφημερίων τιμὰς εἶναι τὰ τοιαῦτα διδάσκωσιν· εὐήθεις δʼ εἶναι μηδὲν σεμνότερον τράγων καὶ κυνῶν τῶν παρʼ Αἰγυπτίοις εἰσάγοντας ἐν ταῖς περὶ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ διηγήσεσι. καὶ πρὸς τοῦτο δὲ φήσομεν· ἆρʼ. ὦ γενναῖε, τὸ μὲν Αἰγυπτίους πολλὰ καὶ οὐ φαῦλα παρέχεσθαι αἰνίγματα καὶ ἀσαφεῖς διηγήσεις περὶ τῶν παρʼ αὐτοῖς ζῴων εὐλόγως ἐπαίρεις τῷ λόγῳ, οὐ δεόντως δὲ ποιεῖς ἡμῶν κατηγορῶν ὡς πειθόμενος μηδὲν ἡμᾶς λέγειν ἀλλὰ πάντα οὐδενὸς λόγου καὶ φαῦλα. ἐπὰν τὰ περὶ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ κατὰ τὴν τοῦ λόγου σοφίαν διεξοδεύωμεν τοῖς ὡς ἐν χριστιανισμῷ τελείοις· περὶ ὧν ὡς ἱκανῶν ἀκοῦσαι τῆς ἐν χριστιανισμῷ σοφίας διδάσκων ὁ Παῦλός φησι· „σοφίαν δὲ λαλοῦμεν ἐν τοῖς τελείοις. σοφίαν δὲ οὐ τοῦ αἰῶνος τούτου οὐδὲ τῶν ἀρχόντων τοῦ αἰῶνος τούτου τῶν καταργουμένων· ἀλλὰ λαλοῦμεν θεοῦ σοφίαν ἐν μυστηρίῳ τὴν ἀποκεκρυμμένην, ἣν προώρισεν ὁ θεὸς πρὸ τῶν αἰώνων εἰς δόξαν ἡμῶν, ἣν οὐδεὶς τῶν ἀρχόντων τοῦ αἰῶνος τούτου ἔγνωκε.“
English · Claude translation
And he says that we laugh at the Egyptians, although they present many enigmas that are not contemptible, when they teach that such things are honors paid to eternal ideas and not, as most think, to ephemeral animals; but that we are simpletons, bringing in nothing more dignified than the goats and dogs of the Egyptians in our narratives about Jesus. To this we shall say: “Good sir, do you reasonably exalt in your account the Egyptians' presenting many enigmas that are not contemptible and obscure narratives about their animals, while you do wrong in accusing us, as if persuaded that we say nothing, but everything we say is worthless and contemptible, when we expound what concerns Jesus according to the wisdom of the teaching to those who are perfect in Christianity?” Paul, teaching about them as able to hear the wisdom in Christianity, says: “We speak wisdom among the perfect, but a wisdom not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom, which God predestined before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age has known.”
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Translation notes
- The quotation is 1 Cor 2:6–8. The “eternal ideas” are Platonic Forms.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (wrong accent in the digital text): φησι γὲ ἡμᾶς → φησι γε ἡμᾶς.
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Origen, Cels. 3.19 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/19/).
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Origen, Cels. 3.19 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/19/).
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