Refutation of All Heresies 5.8.6

Authorship disputed: The work names no author. Book 1 was long printed among Origen's works as the Philosophumena; after books 4–10 were found in a manuscript from Mount Athos (published 1851), it was assigned to Hippolytus, the usual view today, though some scholars ascribe it to another Roman writer of the same circle. Books 2 and 3 are lost, and book 4 lacks its beginning.

Summary: They identify Joseph's divining cup with the cup of Anacreon's drinking song.

Greek text · Duncker–Schneidewin, 150–152

Τοῦτο, φησίν, ἐστὶ τὸ ποτήριον τὸ κόνδυ, ἐν ᾧ βασιλεὺς πίνων οἰωνίζεται. Τοῦτο, φησί, κεκρυμμένον εὑρέθη ἐν τοῖς καλοῖς τοῦ Βενιαμὶν σπέρμασι. Λέγουσι δὲ αὐτὸ καὶ Ἕλληνες, φησίν, οὕτως μαινομένῳ στόματι· Φέρʼ ὕδωρ, φέρʼ οἶνον, ὦ παῖ· μέθυσόν με καὶ κάρωσον. Τὸ ποτήριον λέγει μου, ποδαπόν με δεῖ γενέσθαι.

English · Claude translation

This, he says, is the cup, the condy, in which the king, drinking, divines. This, he says, was found hidden in the fair seeds of Benjamin. And the Greeks too, he says, speak of it thus, with raving mouth: "Bring water, bring wine, boy; make me drunk and stupefy me. My cup tells me what sort I must become."

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Source

Duncker–Schneidewin, 150–152 · Ludwig Duncker and F. G. Schneidewin, eds., S. Hippolyti episcopi et martyris Refutationis omnium haeresium librorum decem quae supersunt (Göttingen: Dieterich, 1859); section divisions from Paul Wendland, ed., Hippolytus Werke 3: Refutatio omnium haeresium, GCS 26 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1916) · Greek text: L. Duncker and F. G. Schneidewin, Refutationis omnium haeresium (Göttingen, 1859), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library; section divisions from P. Wendland (GCS 26, 1916), digitized by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin); both CC BY-SA 4.0

Text

As printed in Duncker–Schneidewin. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.

Translation

Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Duncker–Schneidewin; made independently of existing English translations.

Compare

Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 5 (1886) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Its chapter numbers differ from the standard (Wendland) numbering used here.

Scripture

Gen 44:5 · allusion, high confidence

Extrabiblical texts

Anacreont. (Anacreontea) · quotation, high confidence

Topics

Heresy

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Hippolytus, Haer. 5.8.6 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/hippolytus-refutatio/5/8/6/).

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Plain text

Hippolytus, Haer. 5.8.6 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/hippolytus-refutatio/5/8/6/).

Refutation of All Heresies 5.8.6

Greek text · Duncker–Schneidewin, 150–152

English · Claude translation

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