Refutation of All Heresies 5.8.32
Authorship disputed: The work names no author. Book 1 was long printed among Origen's works as the Philosophumena; after books 4–10 were found in a manuscript from Mount Athos (published 1851), it was assigned to Hippolytus, the usual view today, though some scholars ascribe it to another Roman writer of the same circle. Books 2 and 3 are lost, and book 4 lacks its beginning.
Summary: They quote a saying about eating dead and living things, meaning spiritual words and men.
Greek text · Duncker–Schneidewin, 160
Λέγουσι γοῦν· εἰ νεκρὰ ἐφάγετε καὶ ζῶντα ἐποιήσατε, τί, ἂν ζῶντα φάγητε, ποιήσετε; Ζῶντα δὲ λέγουσι καὶ λόγους καὶ νόας καὶ ἀνθρώπους, τοὺς μαργαρίτας ἐκείνου τοῦ ἀχαρακτηρίστου ἐρριμμένους εἰς τὸ πλάσμα κάτω.
English · Claude translation
At any rate they say: "If you ate dead things and made them living, what will you do if you eat living things?" And by living things they mean words and minds and men, the pearls of that unstamped one cast down into the mold below.
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- The saying resembles Gospel of Thomas 11 (Coptic).
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- Digital text corrected (wrong accent in the digital text): τί, ἄν ζῶντα → τί, ἂν ζῶντα.
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Hippolytus, Haer. 5.8.32 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/hippolytus-refutatio/5/8/32/).
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Hippolytus, Haer. 5.8.32 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/hippolytus-refutatio/5/8/32/).
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