Miscellanies 6.2.11 · Sophia Scriptura

Greek text · Stählin 2:430–431

Ἀλλὰ κἀκεῖνα ὁμοίως ἐπιδράμωμεν. Εὐμήλου γὰρ ποιήσαντος· Μνημοσύνης καὶ Ζηνὸς Ὀλυμπίου ἐννέα κοῦραι, Σόλων τῆς ἐλεγείας ὧδε ἄρχεται· Μνημοσύνης καὶ Ζηνὸς Ὀλυμπίου ἀγλαὰ τέκνα. Πάλιν αὖ τὸ Ὁμηρικὸν παραφράζων Εὐριπίδης· τίς πόθεν εἶς ἀνδρῶν; πόθι τοι πτόλις ἠδὲ τοκῆες; τοῖσδε χρῆται τοῖς ἰαμβείοις ἐν τῷ Αἰγεῖ· ποίαν σε φῶμεν γαῖαν ἐκλελοιπότα πόλει ξενοῦσθαι τῇδε; τίς πάτρας θʼ ὅρος; τίς ἔσθʼ ὁ φύσας; τοῦ κεκήρυξαι πατρός; Τί δʼ; οὐ Θεόγνιδος εἰπόντος· οἶνος πινόμενος πουλὺς κακός· ἢν δέ τις αὐτῷ χρῆται ἐπισταμένως, οὐ κακὸν ἀλλʼ ἀγαθόν, Πανύασσις γράφει· ὡς οἶνος θνητοῖσι θεῶν πάρα δῶρον ἄριστον, πινόμενος κατὰ μέτρον, ὑπέρμετρος δὲ χερείων.

English · Claude translation

But let us run through these too in the same way. When Eumelus composed: “Nine daughters of Mnemosyne and Olympian Zeus,” Solon begins his elegy thus: “Glorious children of Mnemosyne and Olympian Zeus.” Again Euripides, paraphrasing the Homeric line, “Who are you among men, and from where? Where are your city and your parents?” uses these iambics in the Aegeus: “What land shall we say you have left, to be a stranger in this city? What are the bounds of your fatherland? Who begot you? Of what father are you proclaimed the son?” What then? When Theognis said: “Wine drunk in abundance is bad; but if one uses it with understanding, it is not bad but good,” does not Panyassis write: “Wine is the best gift from the gods to mortals when drunk in measure, but beyond measure it is worse”?

About this passage

Source

Stählin 2:430–431 · Otto Stählin, ed., Clemens Alexandrinus, vol. 2, Stromata Buch I–VI, GCS 15 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1906); vol. 3, Stromata Buch VII und VIII, GCS 17 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1909) · Greek text: Otto Stählin, Clemens Alexandrinus 2–3 (GCS 15, 17, 1906–1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA 4.0

Text

As printed in Stählin, GCS 15, 17. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.

Translation

Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Stählin (1906–1909); made independently of existing English translations.

Compare

Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Book 3 is left partly untranslated (in Latin) there.

Extrabiblical texts

Homer, Od. 1.170 (Homer, Odyssey) · quotation, high confidence
Euripides, fragment (Aegeus) (Euripides (plays and fragments)) · quotation, high confidence
Theognis (Theognis (elegies)) · quotation, medium confidence

Notes

Translation notes

The sources are Od. 1.170, Theognis 509–510, Solon (fragment 13.1 West), and fragments of Eumelus, Euripides (Aegeus), and Panyassis.

Notes on the original text

Digital text corrected (misreading in the digital text (accent and final sigma inside a word)): Πανὐαςςις → Πανύασσις.

Cite this passage

Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 6.2.11 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/6/2/11/).

Plain text

Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 6.2.11 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/6/2/11/).