Miscellanies 2.20.106 · Sophia Scriptura

Greek text · Stählin 2:171

ἐντεῦθεν οἶμαι καὶ τὸν εὑρόντα τὰς τελετὰς οὐ μόνον τινῶν ζῴων ἀπαγορεύειν ἅπτεσθαι, ἀλλʼ ἔστιν ἃ καὶ τῶν καταθυομένων ὑπεξείλετο τῆς χρήσεως μέρη διʼ αἰτίας ἃς ἴσασιν οἱ μύσται. Εἰ δὴ γαστρὸς καὶ τῶν ὑπὸ γαστέρα κρατητέον, δῆλον ὡς ἄνωθεν παρειλήφαμεν παρὰ τοῦ κυρίου διὰ τοῦ νόμου τὴν ἐπιθυμίαν ἐκκόπτειν. γένοιτο δʼ ἂν τελείως τοῦτο, εἰ τοῦ ὑπεκκαύματος τῆς ἐπιθυμίας, τῆς ἡδονῆς λέγω, ἀνυποκρίτως καταγνοίημεν. φασὶ δὲ αὐτῆς εἶναι τὴν ἔννοιαν κίνησιν λείαν καὶ προσηνῆ μετά τινος αἰσθήσεως. ταύτῃ δουλεύοντα τὸν Μενέλεων μετὰ τὴν Ἰλίου ἅλωσιν φασὶν ὁρμήσαντα τὴν Ἑλένην ἀνελεῖν ὡς κακῶν τοσούτων αἰτίαν γενομένην, ὅμως οὐ κατισχῦσαι πρᾶξαι ἡττηθέντα τῷ κάλλει, διʼ οὗ ἐπὶ τὴν ἀνάμνησιν τῆς ἡδονῆς ἀφίκετο.

English · Claude translation

From this, I think, the one who founded the mysteries also not only forbade touching certain animals, but there are also parts of the sacrificed animals that he excluded from use for reasons the initiates know. If, then, the belly and what is below the belly must be mastered, it is clear that we have received from above, from the Lord through the law, the command to cut out desire. And this would be done perfectly if we should sincerely condemn the kindling of desire, I mean pleasure. They say that its concept is a smooth and gentle motion with some sensation. Serving this, they say, Menelaus, after the capture of Troy, rushed to kill Helen as the cause of so many evils, yet was not able to do it, overcome by her beauty, through which he came to remember pleasure.

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Source

Stählin 2:171 · Otto Stählin, ed., Clemens Alexandrinus, vol. 2, Stromata Buch I–VI, GCS 15 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1906); vol. 3, Stromata Buch VII und VIII, GCS 17 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1909) · Greek text: Otto Stählin, Clemens Alexandrinus 2–3 (GCS 15, 17, 1906–1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA 4.0

Text

As printed in Stählin, GCS 15, 17. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.

Translation

Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Stählin (1906–1909); made independently of existing English translations.

Compare

Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Book 3 is left partly untranslated (in Latin) there.

Topics

Ethics

Notes

Translation notes

The definition of pleasure is Epicurean-Cyrenaic. The story of Menelaus and Helen is told by the tragedians (see 2.20.107).

Notes on the original text

Digital text corrected (wrong accent on the relative ἃ; wrong accent on the relative ἃς): ἀλλʼ ἔστιν ἅ καὶ τῶν καταθυομένων → ἀλλʼ ἔστιν ἃ καὶ τῶν καταθυομένων; διʼ αἰτίας ἅς ἴσασιν → διʼ αἰτίας ἃς ἴσασιν.

Cite this passage

Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 2.20.106 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/2/20/106/).

Plain text

Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 2.20.106 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/2/20/106/).