On the Trinity 9.11–10.6
Latin text: Migne, PL 42 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 3 (1887).
Chapter 9
9.11PL 42:969
Sed omnis secundum speciem notitia, similis est ei rei qnam novit. Est enim alia notitia secundum privationem, quam cum improbamus, loquimur. 6t hæc priVationis improbatio speciem Iaudat, ideoque approbatur. Ha bet ergo animus nonnullam speciei notae similitudinem, sive cum ea placet, sive cum ejus privatio displicet. Quocirca in quantum Deum novimus, similes sumus: sed non ad æqualitatem similes, quia nec tantum eum novimus, quantum ipse se. Et quemadmodum cum per sensum corporis dicimus corpora, fit eorum ali qua similitudo in animo nostro, quæ phantasia me moriæ est: non enim omnino ipsa corpora in ani mo sunt, cum ea cogitamus; sed eorum similitudines: itaque cum eas pro illis approbamus, erramus; error namque est pro alio alterius approbatio: melior est tamen imaginatio corporis in animo, quam illa spe cics corporis, in quantum hæc in meliore natura est, id est, in substantia vitali, sicuti animus est: ita cum Deum novimus, quamvis meliores efficiamur quam eramus antequam nossemus, maximeque cum eadem notitia etiam placita digneque amata verbum est, fit que allqua Dei similitudo illa notitia: tamen inferior est, quia in inferiore natura est; creatura quippe animus, Cre a E • w > cnm se mens ia a * i 4 eadem notitia verbum ejus, ut ni.; æquale, atque identidem: quia ne n tiæ notitia est, sicut corporis; neque sup Dei. Et cum habeat notitia similitudiem ij ^ t rem quam novit, hoc est, cujus notitia est; h c abet perfectam et æqualem, qua mens i novit, est nota. Ideoque et imago et verbum I, est, quia de illa exprimitur, cum cognoscendo ed HI coaequatur, et est gignenti æquale quod genitum est.
But all knowledge according to form is like the thing it knows. For there is another knowledge, according to privation, which we express when we disapprove. And this disapproval of the privation praises the form, and therefore is approved. The mind, then, has some likeness to the form known, whether when that form pleases or when its privation displeases. Therefore in so far as we know God we are like him; but not like him to the point of equality, since we do not know him as much as he knows himself. And just as, when we speak of bodies through the sense of the body, some likeness of them comes about in our mind, which is an image (phantasia) in the memory (for the bodies themselves are not at all in the mind when we think of them, but their likenesses; and so when we approve these in place of them, we err, for error is approving one thing in place of another); yet the image of a body in the mind is better than that form of the body, in so far as it is in a better nature, that is, in a living substance, as the mind is: so when we know God, although we are made better than we were before we knew him, and above all when that same knowledge, also pleasing and worthily loved, is a word, and that knowledge becomes a certain likeness of God, yet it is lower, because it is in a lower nature; for the mind is a creature, but God is the Creator. From this it is gathered that when the mind knows and approves itself, this same knowledge is its word in such a way that it is wholly equal and identical to it; because it is neither knowledge of a lower essence, like that of a body, nor of a higher, like that of God. And while knowledge has a likeness to the thing it knows, that is, to that of which it is knowledge, this knowledge, by which the mind itself, which knows, is known, has a perfect and equal likeness. And therefore it is both image and word, because it is expressed from the mind, when by knowing it is made equal to it, and what is begotten is equal to the begetter.
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Summary: Knowledge is like what it knows; our knowledge of God is an unequal likeness, but the mind's knowledge of itself is its perfectly equal word and image.
- The digital text is badly damaged in the middle of this chapter (from “for the mind is a creature” to “is known”); that part is translated by the sense of the printed text, which the surviving words support, and the readings there are uncertain.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 9.11 (PL 42:969; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-9-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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9.12PL 42:969–971
Quid ergo amor? non erit imago? non verbum? non genitus? Cur enim mens notitiam suam gignit, cuin se novit; et amorem suum non gignit, cum se amat? Nam si propterca est notionis suæ causa, quia nosoi bilis est; amoris etiam sui causa cst, quia est amab; lis. Cur utrumque itaque non genucrit, difficile est dicere. Hæc enim quæstio etiam de ipsa summa Tri nitate, omnipotentissimo creatore Deo, ad cujus ima ginem homo factus est, solct movere homines, quos veritas Dei per humanam locutionem invitat ad fidem, cur non Spiritus quoque sanctus a Patre Dco genitus vel creditur vel intelligitur, ut filius etiam ipse rlica tur?Quod nunc in mente humana utcumque investigare conamur, ut ex interiore imagine, ill qua nobis fa miliarius natura ipsa nostra, quasi interrogata respon det, exercitatiorem mentis aciem ab illuminata Crea tura ad lumen incommutabile dirigamus: si tamen veritas ipsa persuaserit,sicut Dei Verbum Filium esso nullus christianus dubitat, ita charitatem essc Spiri tum sanctum. Ergo ad imaginem illam, quæ creatura est, hoe est, ad rationalem mentem diligentius de hac re interrogandam considerandamque readeamus, ubi temporaliter existens nonnullarum rerum notitia, quae antea non erat, et aliquarum rerum amor, quae antea non amabantur, distinctius nobis aperit quia dicamus: quia et ipsi locutioni temporaliter dirigcn da; 1, facilior est ad explicandum res quæ in ordino temporum comprehenditur. Primo itaque manifestum sit, posse fieri ut sit aliquid scibile, id est, qnod scir! possit, et tamen nesciatur: illud autem fieri non posse, ut sciatur quod scibile non fuerit. Uude liquido tenendum est quod omnis res quamcumque cognoscimus, congenerat in nobis notitiam sui. Ab utroque enim notitia paritur, a cognoscente et cognito. Itaque mens cum se ipsam cognoscit, sola parens est notitiæ suæ: et cognitum j enim et cognitor ipsa 6st. Erat autem sibi ipsa nosci bilis, et antequam se nosset: sed notitia sui non erat in ea, cum se ipsa non noverat. Quod ergo cognoscit se, parem sibi notitiam sui gignit: quia non miuus se novit quam est, nec alterius cssentiae est notitia cjus, non solum quia ipsa novit, sed etiam quia se ipsam, sicut supra diximus. Quid ergo de amore dicendum est, cur non eliam cum sc amat, ipsum quoque amo rem sui genuisse vidcatur? Erat enim amabilis sibi, et antequam se amarct, quia potcrat se amare: sicut erat sibi noscibilis, et antequam se nosset, quia po terat se nosse. Nam si non sibi esset noscibilis, nun quam se nosse potuisset: ita si non sibi esset ama bilis, nunquam se amare potuisset. Cur itaque aman- I do se non genuisse dicatur amorem suum; sicut cognoscendo se genuit notitiam suam? An eo 1 quidcm manifeste ostenditur hoc amoris esse principium, unde procedit: ab ipsa quippe mente procedit: quæ sibi est amabilisantequam se amcl; atque ita principium cst amoris sui, quo se amat: sed idco non recte dicitur genitus ab ea, sicut notitia sui qua se novit, quia notitia jam inventum est, quod partum vel repertum dicitur, quod sæpe praecedit inquisitio eo fine quietura? Nam inquisilio est appetitus inveniendi, quod idem valet si dicas, reperiendi. Quæ autem reperiuntur, quasi pariuntur: unde proli similia sunt; ubi, nisi in ipsa notitia? Ibi enim quasi expressa formantur. Nam etsi jam erant res quas quærendo invenimus, notitia tamen ipsa non erat, quam sicut prolem nascentem deputa mus. Porro appetitus ille, qui est in quaerendo, pro cedit a quærente, et pendet quodam modo, neque requiescit fine quo intenditur, nisi id quoJ quæritur inventum quærenti copulctur. Qui appetitus, id est inquisitio, quamvis amor esse non videatur, quo id quod notum cst', amatur; hoc enim adhuc ut cogno scatur agitur: tamen ex eodcm genere quiddam est. Nam voluntas jam dici potest, quia omnis qui quaerit invenire vult; et si id quæritur quod ad notitiam per tineat, omnis qui quærit nosse vult. Quod si ardenter atque instanter vult, studere dicitur: quod maxime in assequendis atque adipiscendis quibusque doctrinis dici solet. Partum ergo mentis antecedit appetitus quidam, quo id quod nosse volumus quaerendo et in veniendo, nascitur proles ipsa notitia: ac per hoc appetitus ille quo concipitur pariturque notitia, partus et proles recte dici non potest; idemque appetitus quo inhiatur rei cognoscendæ, fit amor cognitæ, dum tenet atque amplectitur placitam prolem, id est, no titiam, gignentique conjungit. Et est quædam imago Trinitatis, ipsa mens, et notitia ejus, quod est proles ejus ac de se ipsa verbum ejus, et amor tertius, et haec tria unum atque una substantia. Nee minor pro les, dum tantam se novit mens quanta est: nec mi nor amor, dum tantum se diligit quantum novit ct quanta est.
What then of love? Will it not be an image? Not a word? Not begotten? For why does the mind beget its knowledge when it knows itself, and not beget its love when it loves itself? For if it is the cause of its knowledge because it is knowable, it is also the cause of its love because it is lovable. Why, then, it has not begotten both is hard to say. For this question is also commonly raised concerning the supreme Trinity itself, the almighty creator God, to whose image man was made, by men whom the truth of God invites to faith through human speech: why the Holy Spirit too is not believed or understood to be begotten by God the Father, so that he too may be called son? This we now try to investigate in some way in the human mind, so that from the inner image, in which our nature itself, as if questioned, answers us more familiarly, we may direct the more practised eye of the mind from the enlightened creature to the unchangeable light: if, that is, the truth itself persuades us that, as no Christian doubts that the Word of God is the Son, so the Holy Spirit is love. Let us return, then, to that image which is a creature, that is, to the rational mind, to question and consider it more carefully on this matter, where the knowledge of some things, existing in time, which was not there before, and the love of some things which were not loved before, open to us more distinctly what we are to say; because to speech itself, which must be directed in time, a thing that is contained in the order of times is easier to explain. First, then, let it be clear that it can happen that something is knowable, that is, can be known, and yet is not known; but that it cannot happen that something is known which was not knowable. Hence it must be clearly held that every thing whatever that we know co-generates in us the knowledge of itself. For knowledge is brought forth by both, by the knower and the known. And so the mind, when it knows itself, is the sole parent of its knowledge; for it is itself both the known and the knower. But it was knowable to itself even before it knew itself; yet knowledge of itself was not in it when it did not know itself. In that it knows itself, therefore, it begets knowledge of itself equal to itself; because it does not know itself as less than it is, nor is its knowledge of another essence, not only because it itself knows, but also because it knows itself, as we said above. What then is to be said of love: why, when it loves itself, does it not seem to have begotten its love of itself as well? For it was lovable to itself even before it loved itself, because it could love itself; just as it was knowable to itself even before it knew itself, because it could know itself. For if it were not knowable to itself, it could never have known itself; so if it were not lovable to itself, it could never have loved itself. Why then should it not be said to have begotten its love by loving itself, as it begot its knowledge by knowing itself? Is it because it is clearly shown that the beginning of love is that from which it proceeds (for it proceeds from the mind itself, which is lovable to itself before it loves itself, and so is the beginning of its love by which it loves itself), but that it is therefore not rightly said to be begotten by it, as is the knowledge of itself by which it knows itself, because knowledge is something already found, which is called brought forth (partum) or discovered (repertum), and this is often preceded by a search that comes to rest in that end? For search is the desire of finding, which means the same as if you said discovering. But things that are discovered are as it were brought forth; and so they are like offspring. Where, but in knowledge itself? For there they are formed as if expressed. For even if the things we find by seeking already existed, yet the knowledge itself did not exist, which we regard as offspring being born. Further, that desire which is in seeking proceeds from the seeker, and hangs, as it were, and does not rest in the end towards which it is directed until what is sought is found and joined to the seeker. And this desire, that is, search, although it does not seem to be the love by which what is known is loved (for here the aim is still to know it), is yet something of the same kind. For it can already be called will, because everyone who seeks wishes to find; and if what is sought belongs to knowledge, everyone who seeks wishes to know. And if he wishes ardently and urgently, he is said to study; which is said especially of attaining and acquiring any branches of learning. The mind's bringing forth, then, is preceded by a kind of desire, by which, through seeking and finding what we wish to know, the offspring itself, knowledge, is born; and therefore that desire by which knowledge is conceived and brought forth cannot rightly be called birth and offspring; and the same desire by which one longs to know a thing becomes love of the thing known, while it holds and embraces the pleasing offspring, that is, the knowledge, and joins it to the begetter. And there is a certain image of the Trinity: the mind itself, and its knowledge, which is its offspring and its word from itself, and love as a third; and these three are one and one substance. Nor is the offspring less, while the mind knows itself as great as it is; nor is love less, while it loves itself as much as it knows itself and as great as it is.
Gen 1:26 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: Love is not called begotten like knowledge because it proceeds as the desire that seeks and then embraces knowledge; so mind, knowledge (its word), and love are an image of the Trinity, three and one substance.
- Augustine applies this to the question why the Holy Spirit is not called begotten; he offers the image tentatively (“if the truth itself persuades us”).
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 9.12 (PL 42:969–971; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-9-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 10
10.1PL 42:971–973
Nunc ad ea ipsa consequenter enodatius expli canda limatior accedat intentio. Ac primum, quia rem prorsus ignotam amare omnino nullus potest, dili genter mtuendum est cujusmodi sit amor studentium, id est, non jam scientium, sed adhuc scire cupientium quamque doctrinam. Et in his quippe rebus in quibus non usitate dicitur studium, solent existere amores ex auditu, dum cujusque pulchritudinis fama ad videndum ac fruendum animus accenditur, quia generaliter novit corporum pulchritudines, ex eo quod plurimas vidil, et inest intrinsecus unde approbetur, cui Corin secus inhiatur. Quod cum fit, non rei penitus iDeo gnilx amor excitatur, cujus genus ita notum est. Cum autem virum bonum amamus, cujus faciem non vidi mus, ex notitia virtutum amamus, quas novimus in ipsa veritate. Ad doctrinas autem cognoscendas, pIe rumque nos laudantium atque prædicantium accendit auctoritas: et tamen nisi breviter impressam cujusque doctrinæ haberemus in animo notionem, nullo ad eam discendam studio flagraremus. Quis enim scicn dæ, verbi gratia, rhetoricae ullam curam et operam impenderet, nisi ante sciret cam dicendi esse scicn tiam? Aliquando etiam ipsarum doctrinarum fines au* ditos expertosve miramur, et ex hoc inardescimus fa tultatem comparare discendo, qua ad eos pervenire possimus. Tanquam si litteras nescienti dicatur quam dam esse doctrinam, qua quisque valeat, quamvis longe absenti, verba mittere manu facta in silentio, quae rursus ille cui mittuntur, non auribus, sed oculis colligat, idque fieri videat; nonne, dum concupiscit nosse quo id possit, omni studio circa illum finem movetur, quem jam notum tenet? Sic accenduntur studia discentium: nam quod quisque prorsus ignorat, amare nullo pacto potest. Ita etiam signum si quis audiat incognitum, vel uti verbi alicujus sonum, quo quid significetur igno rat, cupit scire quidnam sit, id est, sonus ille cui rei commemorandae institutus sit: veluti si audiat cum dicitur temetum, et ignorans quid sit requirat. Jam itaque oportet ut noverit signum esse, id est, non esse inanem illam vocem, sed aliquid ea significari: alioquin jam notum est hoc trisyllabum, et articu latam speciem suam impressit animo per sensum ars rium: quid amplius in eo requiratur, quo I magis innotescat, cujus omnes litterae omniaque soni spatia nota sunt; nisi quia simul innotuit signum esse, Ino vitque sciendi cupiditatem, cujus rei signum sit? Quo igitur amplius notum est, sed non plene notum est, eo cupit animus de illo nosse quod rcliquum est. Si enim tantummodo esse istam vocem nosset, eamque aiicujus rei signum esse non nosset, nihil jam qux reret, sensibili re, quantum poterat, sentiendo per cepta. Quia vero non solum esse vocem, sed et signum esse jam novit, perfecte id nosse vult. Neque ullum perfecte signum noscitur, nisi cujus rei signum sit cognoscatur. Hoc ergo qui ardenti cura quærit ut no verit, studioque accensus insistit, num potest dici esse sine amore? Quid igitur amat? Certe enim amari ali quid nisi notum non potest. Neque enim ille istas Ires syllabas amat, quas jam notas habet. Quod si h; c in eis amat, quia scit eas significare aliquid; non inde nunc agitur, non enim hoc nosse quærit: sed in eo quod scire studet, quid amet inquirimus, quod pro fecto nondum novit: et propterea miramur cur ariel, quoniam firmissime novimus amari nisi nota non posse. Quid ergo amat, nisi quia novit alquc intuetur in rationibus rerurn quae sit pulchritudo doctrinæ, qua continentur notitiae signorum omnium; et quæ sit utilitas in ea peritia, qua inter se humana societas sensa communicat, ne sibi hominum cœtus deteriores sint quavis solitudiue, si cogitationes suas colloquendo non misceant. Hanc ergo speciem decoram et utilem cernit anima, et novit, et amat; eamque in se perfici studet, quantum potest, quisquis vocum significan tium quaecumque ignorat 1, inquirit. Aliud est enim quod eam in veritatis luce conspicit, aliud quod in sua facultate concupiscit. Conspicit namque in luce veritatis quam magnum et quam bonum sit omnes om nium gentium linguas Intelligere ac loqtii, nullamque ut alienigena I audire, et a nullo ita audiri. Cujus noti tiae decus cogitatione jam cernitur, amaturque res nota; qune ita conspicitur, atque inflammat studia discentium, ut circa eam moveantur, eique inhient in omni opera quam impendunt consequendæ tali facul tati, ut etiam usu amplectantur quod ratione præno scunt: atque ita quisque, cui facultati spe propin quat, ei ferventius amore inardescit. Eis doctrinis quippe studetur vehementius, quoe capi posse non desperantur Nam cujus rei adipiscendæ spem quisque non gerit, aut tepide amat, aut omnino non amat, quamvis quam pulchra sit videat. Quocirca, quia om nium linguarum scientia fere ab omnibus desperatur, suae gentis quisque maxime studet, ut noverit. Quod si et illi ad perfectum percipiendae se non sufficere sentit, nemo tamen tam desidiosus est hujus notitiae, qui non, cum audierit incognitum verbum, velit noSse quid illud sit, et si potest, quaerat ac discat. Quod dum quærit, utique in studio discendi est, et videtur amare rem incognitam; quod non ita est. Species namque illa tangit animum, quam novit et cogitat, in qua elucet decus consociandorum animorum in vo cibus notis audiendis atque reddendis: eaque accendit studio quærentem quidem quod ignorat, sed notam formam, quo id pertineat, intuentem ct amantem. Iraque si quærenti, verbi gratia, quid sit temetum ( hoc enim exempli causa posueram ), dicatur, Quid ad te pertinet' respondebit, Ne forte audiam loquen. tcm, et non intelligam, aut uspiam forte id legam, et quid scriptor senscrit, nesciam. Quis tandem huic dicat, Noli intelligere quod audis, noli nosse quod legis?.Omnibus enim fere animis rationalibus in promptu est ad videndum hujus peritiae pulchritudo, qua hominum inter se cogitata, significantium vocum enuntiatione noscuntur: propter hoc notum decus, et ob boc amatum quia notum, studiose quxritur ver bum illud ignotum. Itaque cum audierit atque cogno verit temetum a veteribus vinum appellatum, sed jam I ex usu loquendi quem nunc habemus, boc vocabulum emortuum, propter nonnullos fortasse veterum libros sibi necessarium deputabit. Si autem et illos super vacaneus haLet, forte jam nec dignum quod memoriæ commendet existimat, quia videt ad illam speciem doctrinae quam notam mente intuetur atque amat, minime pertinere. Quamobrem omnis amor studentis animi, hoc est volentis scire quod nescit, non est amor ejus rei quam nescit, sed ejus quam scit, propter quam vult scire quod nescit. Aut si tam curiosus est, ut non propter causam aliam nolam, sed solo amore rapiatur incognita sciendi; discernendus quidem est ab 6tu diosi homine iste curiosus, sed nee ipse amat in cognita, imo congruentius dicitur, Odit incognita quae uulla esse vult, dum vult omnia cognita. Sed ne quisquam nobis difficiliorem referat quaestionem asserens tam non posse quemquam odisse quod ne scit, quam non potest amare quod nescit, non re sistimus veris I: sed intelligendum est, non hoc ideo. dici cum dicitur, Amat scire incognita, ac si dice retur, Amat incognita. Illud cnim fieri potest, ut amet quisque scire incognita: ut autemamet incognita, non potest. Non enim frustra ibi est positum scire: quoniam qui scire amat incognita, non ipsa incognita, sed ipsum scire amat. Quod nisi haberet cognitum, neque scire se quisquam posset fidenter dicere, neque nescire. Non solum enim qui dicit, Scio et vcrum dicit, necesse est ut quid sit scire sciat: sed etiam qui dicit, Nescio, idque fidenter et verum dicit, et scit verum se dicere, scit utique quid sit scire: quia et discernit ab sciente nescientem, cum veraciter se intuens dicit, Nescio; et cum id se scit verum dicere, unde sciret, si quid sit scire nesciret?
Now let our attention, made sharper, approach the task of explaining these same things in order and more plainly. And first, since no one at all can love a thing wholly unknown, we must carefully consider what kind of love belongs to those who are studying, that is, those who do not yet know, but still desire to know, some branch of learning. For even in those matters in which we do not usually speak of study, loves often arise from hearing, when the mind is fired by the report of someone's beauty to see and enjoy it; because it knows the beauties of bodies in general, from having seen very many, and there is within it that by which what it longs for outwardly is approved. When this happens, love is roused not for a thing wholly unknown, since its kind is so well known. And when we love a good man whose face we have not seen, we love him from the knowledge of the virtues, which we know in the truth itself. But to know the branches of learning, we are often fired by the authority of those who praise and commend them; and yet unless we had in the mind a notion of each branch of learning impressed in brief, we would burn with no zeal to learn it. For who would spend any care and effort on knowing rhetoric, for example, unless he knew beforehand that it is the knowledge of speaking? Sometimes too we admire the ends of these branches of learning, which we have heard of or experienced, and from this we burn to acquire by learning the ability by which we may attain them. As if one who did not know letters were told that there is a kind of learning by which anyone can send words made by the hand in silence to someone however far away, which he to whom they are sent in turn gathers not with the ears but with the eyes; and if he saw this done, would he not, while he longs to know how this can be done, be moved with all zeal towards that end which he already holds as known? So the zeal of learners is kindled; for what anyone is wholly ignorant of he can in no way love. So too if anyone hears an unknown sign, such as the sound of some word whose meaning he does not know, he desires to know what it is, that is, what thing that sound was appointed to recall: as if he hears “temetum” said and, not knowing what it is, asks. He must already know, then, that it is a sign, that is, that it is not an empty sound but that something is signified by it; otherwise this word of three syllables is already known, and has impressed its articulated form on the mind through the sense of the ears. What more is to be sought in it, to make it better known, when all its letters and all the spaces of its sounds are known, except that at the same time it became known that it is a sign, and this moved a desire to know what it is a sign of? The more, then, it is known, but not fully known, the more the mind desires to know what remains about it. For if it knew only that this sound exists, and did not know that it is a sign of something, it would seek nothing further, having perceived the sensible thing by sensing it, as far as it could. But since it knows not only that it is a sound but also that it is a sign, it wishes to know it perfectly. And no sign is known perfectly unless what it is a sign of is known. Can one, then, who seeks this with burning care so as to know it, and presses on fired by zeal, be said to be without love? What then does he love? For certainly nothing can be loved unless it is known. For he does not love those three syllables, which he already has as known. And if he loves this in them, that he knows that they signify something, that is not what we are dealing with now, for he is not seeking to know that; but we are asking what he loves in what he is eager to know, which he certainly does not yet know; and therefore we wonder why he loves, since we know most firmly that things cannot be loved unless they are known. What then does he love, except that he knows and beholds in the reasons of things what is the beauty of the learning in which the knowledge of all signs is contained, and what is the usefulness of that skill by which human society communicates its thoughts among its members, lest gatherings of men be worse for them than any solitude, if they did not mingle their thoughts by conversing? This fair and useful form, then, the soul discerns, and knows, and loves; and whoever asks about any significant words he does not know is eager to have it perfected in himself as far as he can. For it is one thing that he beholds it in the light of truth, another that he desires it in his own ability. For he beholds in the light of truth how great and how good it is to understand and speak all the languages of all nations, and to hear none as a foreigner and be so heard by none. The beauty of this knowledge is already discerned by thought, and the thing known is loved; and it is so beheld, and so fires the zeal of learners, that they are moved about it and long for it in all the effort they spend to attain such an ability, so as to embrace in practice also what they know beforehand by reason; and so each burns more fervently with love for that ability which he approaches in hope. For those branches of learning are studied more eagerly which are not despaired of as attainable. For a thing that anyone has no hope of obtaining he either loves lukewarmly or does not love at all, although he sees how beautiful it is. Therefore, since knowledge of all languages is despaired of by almost everyone, each is most eager to know that of his own nation. And if he feels he is not sufficient to grasp even that perfectly, yet no one is so idle about this knowledge that, when he hears an unknown word, he does not wish to know what it is, and, if he can, ask and learn. While he asks, he is certainly in the zeal of learning, and seems to love an unknown thing; which is not so. For that form touches the mind which it knows and thinks of, in which shines the beauty of minds joined together by hearing and returning known sounds; and it fires with zeal one who seeks indeed what he does not know, but beholds and loves the known form to which it belongs. And so if one who asks, for example, what “temetum” is (for I gave this as an example) is told, “What does it matter to you?”, he will answer, “Lest perhaps I hear someone speak and not understand, or perhaps read it somewhere and not know what the writer meant.” Who, then, would say to him, “Do not understand what you hear, do not know what you read”? For the beauty of this skill, by which men's thoughts are known to one another through the utterance of significant sounds, is ready to be seen by almost all rational minds; because of this known beauty, loved because known, that unknown word is eagerly sought. And so when he has heard and learned that wine was called “temetum” by the ancients, but that this word is already dead in the usage of speech we now have, he will perhaps think it necessary for him because of some books of the ancients. But if he considers these too superfluous, perhaps he will not even think it worth committing to memory, because he sees that it hardly belongs to that form of learning which he beholds as known in the mind and loves. Therefore every love of the studious mind, that is, of one wishing to know what it does not know, is not love of the thing it does not know, but of what it knows, for the sake of which it wishes to know what it does not know. Or if one is so curious that he is carried away, not for some other known reason, but by the mere love of knowing unknown things, this curious man is indeed to be distinguished from the studious man, but neither does he love unknown things; indeed it is more fitting to say, “He hates unknown things,” which he wishes not to exist, since he wishes all things to be known. But lest anyone raise against us a harder question, asserting that no one can hate what he does not know any more than he can love what he does not know, we do not resist what is true; but it must be understood that, when it is said, “He loves to know unknown things,” this is not said as if it were said, “He loves unknown things.” For it can happen that someone loves to know unknown things; but that he loves unknown things cannot happen. For “to know” is not put there in vain; since he who loves to know unknown things loves not the unknown things themselves but knowing itself. And unless he had this known, no one could say confidently either that he knows or that he does not know. For not only must one who says, “I know,” and says it truly, know what knowing is; but also one who says, “I do not know,” and says it confidently and truly, and knows that he says it truly, certainly knows what knowing is; because he distinguishes the one who does not know from the one who knows, when, looking at himself truthfully, he says, “I do not know”; and when he knows that he says this truly, how would he know it, if he did not know what knowing is?
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Summary: No one loves a wholly unknown thing: those eager to learn love a known form of learning, or knowing itself, for the sake of which they seek what they do not yet know.
- Temetum: an archaic Latin word for wine. A leaked section numeral (“I.”) before “Ita etiam signum” is removed.
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- Digital text corrected (leaked section number): nullo pacto potest. I. Ita etiam → nullo pacto potest. Ita etiam.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 10.1 (PL 42:971–973; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-10-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.2PL 42:973–975
Quilibet igitur studiosus, quilibet curiosus non amal incognita, etiam cum ardentissimo appetitu instat scire quod nescit. Aut enim jam genere notum habet quod amat, idque nosse expetit, etiam in aliqua re singula, vel in singulis rebus, quae illi nondum notæ J forte laudantur, fingitque animo imaginariam formam qua excitetur in amorem. Unde autem fingit, nisi ex iis quae jam noverat? Cujus tamen formae animo figu ratae atque in cogitatione notissimx, si eam quae lau dabatur dissimilem invenerit, fortasse non amabit. Quod si amaverit, ex illo amare incipiet ex quo didicit. Paulo ante quippe alia erat quae amabatur, quam sibi animus formans exhibere consueverat. Si autem illi formae similem invenerit quam fama prædi caverat, cui vere possit dicere, Jam te amabam; nec tunc utique amabat incognitam, quam in illa silnililu dine noverat. Aut in specie sempiternæ rationis vi demus aliquid et ibi amamus, quod cum expressum in aliqua rei temporalis effigie, illis qui experti sunt laudantibus et credimus, et amamus, non aliquid. amamus incognitum, unde jam supra salis disserui mus: aut aliquid notum amamus, propter quod igno tum aliquid quærimus: cujus ignoti amor nequaquam nos tenet, sed illius cogniti, quo pertinere novhnus, ut illud etiam quod adhuc ignotum quaerimus, nove rimus; sicut de incognito verbo paulo ante loculus sum. Aut ipsum scire quisque amat, quod nulli scire aliquid cupienti esse incognitum potest. His causis videntur amare incognita, qui scire aliquid volunt quod nesciunt, et propter ardentiorem quærendi appe titum sine amore esse dici non possunt. Sed quam se res aliter habeat, neque omnino'quidquam amctur incognitum, arbitror me persuasisse verum diligenter intuentibus. Sed quia exempla quae dedimus, eorum sunt, qui aliquid quod ipsi non suut nosse cupiunt; videndum est ne forte aliquod novum genus appareat, cum se ipsa mens nosse desiderat.
Any studious man, then, and any curious man, does not love unknown things, even when he presses on with most ardent desire to know what he does not know. For either he already knows in its kind what he loves, and longs to know it also in some particular thing or things, which perhaps are praised to him though not yet known to him, and he pictures in his mind an imaginary form by which he is roused to love. And from what does he picture it, but from the things he already knew? Yet if he finds the one that was praised unlike this form figured in his mind and very well known in his thought, perhaps he will not love it. And if he does love it, he will begin to love it from the time he learned it. For a little before, it was another that was loved, which the mind, forming it, was accustomed to present to itself. But if he finds it like that form which report had proclaimed, so that he can truly say to it, “I loved you already,” not even then did he love an unknown one, whom he had known in that likeness. Or we see something in the form of the everlasting reason and love it there, and when it is expressed in some image of a temporal thing, we both believe and love it on the praise of those who have experienced it; and we do not love anything unknown, about which we have already said enough above. Or we love something known, for the sake of which we seek something unknown; and it is by no means the love of that unknown thing that holds us, but of the known thing to which we know it belongs, so that we may know also that which we still seek as unknown, as I said a little before about the unknown word. Or each one loves knowing itself, which cannot be unknown to anyone who desires to know something. For these reasons those who wish to know something they do not know seem to love unknown things, and because of their more ardent desire to seek, they cannot be said to be without love. But how otherwise the matter stands, and that nothing at all unknown is loved, I think I have persuaded those who look carefully at the truth. But since the examples we have given are of those who desire to know something that they themselves are not, we must see whether perhaps some new kind appears when the mind desires to know itself.
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Summary: Seekers love either a known kind, a form seen in the eternal reason, a known end, or knowing itself; nothing wholly unknown is loved. Augustine now asks what happens when the mind seeks to know itself.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 10.2 (PL 42:973–975; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-10-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.3PL 42:975
Quid ergo amat mens, cum ardenter se ipsam quaerit ut noverit, dum incognita sibi est? Ecce enim mens semetipsam quærit ut noverit, et inflammatur hoc studio. Amat igUur: sed quid amat? Se ipsam? Quomodo, cum se nondum noverit, nec quisquam possit amare quod nescit? An ei fama prae dicavit speciem suam, sicut do absentibus solemus audire? Forte ergo se non amat, sed quod de se fingit, hoc amat, longe fortasse aliud quam ipsa est: aut si se mens sui similem fingit, et ideo cum hoc figmentum amat, se amat antequam noverit; quia id quod sui simile est intuetur: novit igitur alias mentes ex quibus se fingat, et genere ipso sibi nota est. Cur ergo cum alias mentes novit, se non no vil, cum se ipsa nihil sibi possit ese praesentius? Quod si ut oculis corporis magis alii oculi noti sunt, quam ipsi sibi; non sc ergo quaerat nunquam inven tura. Nunquam enim se oculi præter specula vide bunt: nec ullo modo putundum est etiam rebus incorporeis contemplandis tale aliquid adhiberi, ut mens tanquam in speculo se noverit. An in ratione veritatis æternæ videt quam speciosum sit nosse se metipsam, et hoc amat quod videt, studetquc in se fleri? quia quamvis sibi nota non sit, notum tamen ei cst qnam bonum sit, ut sibi nota sit. Et hoc quidem permirabile est, nondum se nosse, et quam pulchrum sit se nosse, jain nosse. An aliquem finem optimum, id cst securitatem et beatitudinem suam videt, per quamdam occultam mcmoriam, quae in longinqua 1 eam progressam non dcseruit, ct credit ad eumdem finem, nisi se ipsam cognoverit, se pervenire non posse? ILa dum illud amat, hoc quærit: et notum amat illud, propter quod quærit ignotum. Sed cur memoria beatitudinis suæ potuit, et memoria sui cum ca perdurare non potuit, ut lam se nosset quæ vult pervenire, quam novit illud quo vult pervenirc? An cum se nosse amat, non se quam nondum novit, sed ipsum nosse amat; acerbiusque tolerat se ipsam deesse scientiæ suæ, qua vult cuncta comprehendere? Novit autem quid sit nosse, et dum hoc amat quod novit, etiam se cupit nosse. Ubi ergo nosse suurn no vit, si se non novit? Nam novit quod alia noverit, se autem non noverit: hinc enim novit et quid sit nosse. Quo pacto igitur se aliquid scientem scit, quæ se ipsam nescit? Neque enim alteram mentem scientem scit, sed se ipsam. Scit igitur se ipsam. Deinde cunt se quærit ut noverit, quærentem se jam novit. Jain se ergo novit. Quapropter non potest omnino nescire se, quæ dum se nescientem scit, se utique scit. Si au tem se nescientem nesciat, non se quærit ut sciat. Qua propter eo ipso quo se quærit, magis se sibi notam quam ignotam esse convincitur. Novit enim se qua: rentem atque nescientem, dum se quærit ut noverit.
What then does the mind love, when it ardently seeks itself in order to know itself, while it is unknown to itself? For see, the mind seeks itself in order to know itself, and is set on fire by this zeal. It loves, then; but what does it love? Itself? How, since it does not yet know itself, and no one can love what he does not know? Or has report proclaimed its beauty to it, as we usually hear about absent people? Perhaps, then, it does not love itself, but loves what it pictures of itself, perhaps far other than what it is; or if the mind pictures itself like itself, and so, when it loves this fiction, loves itself before it knows itself, because it beholds what is like itself, then it knows other minds from which it pictures itself, and is known to itself in its very kind. Why then, when it knows other minds, does it not know itself, since nothing can be more present to it than itself? But if, as other eyes are better known to the eyes of the body than they are to themselves, then let it not seek itself, for it will never find itself. For the eyes will never see themselves except in mirrors; and we must by no means think that anything of the kind is applied also to the contemplation of incorporeal things, so that the mind should know itself as in a mirror. Or does it see in the reason of eternal truth how beautiful it is to know oneself, and love what it sees, and strive that it may come about in itself? Because, although it is not known to itself, yet it is known to it how good it is to be known to itself. And this indeed is most wonderful, not yet to know oneself and already to know how beautiful it is to know oneself. Or does it see some best end, that is, its own security and blessedness, through a kind of hidden memory which has not deserted it even when it has gone far away, and believe that it cannot reach that end unless it knows itself? So while it loves that, it seeks this; and it loves that known thing for the sake of which it seeks the unknown. But why could the memory of its blessedness endure, and the memory of itself not endure with it, so that it should know itself, who wishes to arrive, as well as it knows that at which it wishes to arrive? Or, when it loves to know itself, does it love not itself, which it does not yet know, but knowing itself, and does it bear more bitterly that it is itself lacking to its own knowledge, by which it wishes to grasp all things? But it knows what knowing is, and while it loves this which it knows, it also desires to know itself. Where, then, does it know its own knowing, if it does not know itself? For it knows that it knows other things, but does not know itself; for from this it also knows what knowing is. How, then, does it know itself as knowing something, if it does not know itself? For it does not know another mind as knowing, but itself. It knows itself, then. Further, when it seeks itself in order to know itself, it already knows itself as seeking. It already knows itself, then. Therefore it cannot be wholly ignorant of itself, since, when it knows itself not knowing, it certainly knows itself. But if it did not know itself as not knowing, it would not seek itself in order to know. Therefore, by the very fact that it seeks itself, it is shown to be more known to itself than unknown. For it knows itself seeking and not knowing, while it seeks itself in order to know itself.
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Summary: When the mind seeks to know itself it cannot love an unknown self; Augustine tests several explanations and concludes that by seeking itself the mind already knows itself as seeking and not knowing.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 10.3 (PL 42:975; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-10-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.4PL 42:975–977
Quid ergo dicemus? an quod ex parte se novit, ex parte non novit? Sed absurdum est dicere, non cam totam scire quod scit. Non dico, Totum scit; sed quod scit, tota scit. Cum itaque aliquid de se scit, quod nisi tota non potest, totam se scit 1. Scit autem se aliquid scientem, nee potest quidquam scire nisi tota. Scit se igitur totam. Deinde quid ejus ei tam notum est, quam se vivcre? Non potest autem et mens esse, ct non vivere, quando habet eliam amplius ut intelligat: nam et animæ bestiarum vivunt, sed non intelligunt. Sicut ergo mens tota mens est, sic tota vivit. Novit autem vi vere se. Totam se igitur novit. Postremo cum se nosse mens quærit, mentem se esse jam novit: alio quin utrum se quærat ignorat, et aliud pro alio fur sitan quærat 2. Ficri enim potest ut ipsa non sit mens, atque ita dum mentem nosse quærit, non se ipsam quærat. Quapropter, quoniam cum quærit mens quid sit mens, novit quod se quærat, profecto novit quod ipsa sit mens. Porro si hoc in se novit quod mens cst, et tota mens est, totam se novit. Sed ecce non se noverit esse mentem, cum autem se quærit, hoc tantummodo noverit quod se quærat. Potest enim etiam sic aliud pro alio quærere, si hoc nescit: ut autem non quærat aliud pro alio, procul dubio novit quid quærat. At si nov it quid quærat, et se ipsam quærit, se ipsam utique novit. Quid ergo adhuc quxrit? Quod si ex parte se novit, ex parte autem adhuc quærit, non se ipsam, sed partem suam quærit. Cum enim ea ipsa dicitur, tota dicitur. Dein de quia novit nondum se a se inventam totam, novit quanta sit toll. Atque ita quærit quod deest, quem admodum solemus quærere, ut veniat in mentem quod excidii, nec tamen penitus excedit; quia potest recognosci, cum venerit, hoc esse quod quærebatur. Sed quomodo mens veniat in mentem, quasi possit mens in mente non esse? IIuc accedit, quia si parte tnventa, non se totam quærit, tamen tota se quærit. Tota ergo sibi præsto est, et quid adhuc quæratur non est: hoc enim deest quod quaeritur, non illa quæ quærit. Cum itaque tota se quærit, nihil ejus deest. Aut si non tota se quærit, sed pars quæ inventa est quærit partem quoe nondum inventa est; non se ergo mens quærit, cujus se nulla pars quærit. Pars enim quæ inventa est, non se quærit: pars autem quæ nondum inventa est, nec ipsa se quaerit, quoniam ab ea quæ jam inventa est parte quæritur. Quocirca, quia nec tota se mens quaerit, nee pars ejus ulla se quærit, se mens omnino non quærit.
What then shall we say? That it knows itself in part and in part does not? But it is absurd to say that it does not know as a whole what it knows. I do not say, “It knows the whole,” but, “What it knows, it knows as a whole.” When, therefore, it knows something about itself, which it cannot know except as a whole, it knows itself whole. But it knows itself as knowing something, and it cannot know anything except as a whole. Therefore it knows itself whole. Further, what of it is so known to it as that it lives? But it cannot be a mind and not live, since it has besides the power to understand; for the souls of beasts too live, but do not understand. As, then, the mind is wholly mind, so it wholly lives. But it knows that it lives. Therefore it knows itself whole. Finally, when the mind seeks to know itself, it already knows that it is a mind; otherwise it does not know whether it is seeking itself, and may perhaps be seeking one thing instead of another. For it could be that it is not itself a mind, and so, while it seeks to know a mind, it is not seeking itself. Therefore, since when the mind seeks what mind is it knows that it is seeking itself, it certainly knows that it is itself a mind. Further, if it knows this in itself, that it is a mind, and it is wholly mind, it knows itself whole. But suppose it did not know that it is a mind, but when it seeks itself knew only this, that it is seeking itself. For even so it can seek one thing instead of another, if it does not know this; but in order not to seek one thing instead of another, it undoubtedly knows what it is seeking. But if it knows what it is seeking, and it is seeking itself, it certainly knows itself. What then does it still seek? And if it knows itself in part and still seeks in part, it is seeking not itself but a part of itself. For when it itself is spoken of, it is spoken of as a whole. Further, since it knows that it has not yet been wholly found by itself, it knows how great the whole is. And so it seeks what is lacking, as we usually seek to bring to mind something that has slipped from it, yet has not wholly gone out of it, because it can be recognized, when it comes, as the thing that was being sought. But how can the mind come into the mind, as if the mind could not be in the mind? Add to this that, if, having found a part, it is not seeking itself whole, yet it is itself whole that seeks. It is wholly present to itself, then, and there is nothing further to be sought; for what is sought is lacking, not the mind that seeks. When, therefore, it seeks itself whole, nothing of it is lacking. Or if it is not the whole that seeks itself, but the part that has been found seeks the part that has not yet been found, then the mind is not seeking itself, since no part of it is seeking itself. For the part that has been found is not seeking itself; and the part that has not yet been found is not seeking itself either, since it is being sought by the part that has already been found. Therefore, since neither the whole mind seeks itself, nor does any part of it seek itself, the mind does not seek itself at all.
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Summary: The mind cannot know itself only in part: knowing that it lives, that it knows, and that it is seeking itself, it knows itself as a whole, so in a sense it does not need to seek itself at all.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 10.4 (PL 42:975–977; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-10-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.5PL 42:977
Utquid ergo ei praeceptum est, ut se ipsam cognoscat? Credo, ut se ipsam cogitet, et secundum naturam suam vivat, id est, ut secundum naturam suam ordi uari appetat, sub eo scilicet cui subdenda est, supra ca quibus præponenda est; sub illo a quo rcgi debet, supra ea quae regere debet. Multa enim per cupidi tatem pravam, tanquam sui sit oblita, sic agit. Vidct enim quædam intrinsecus pulchra, in præstantiore natura quoe Deus est: et cum stare debeat1 ut eis fruatur, volens ea sibi tribuere, et non ex illo similis illius, sed ex se ipsa esse quod ille est, avertitur ab eo, moveturque et labitur in minus et minus, quod putat amplius et amplius; quia nec ipsa sibi, nee ei quidquam sufficit recedenti ab illo qui solus sufficit: ideoque per egestatem ac difficultatem fit nimis in tenta in actiones suas et inquictas delectationes quas pcr cas colligit; atque ita cupiditate acquirendi noti tias ex iis quæ foris sunt, quorum cognitum genus nmat et sentit amitti posse, nisi impensa cura tenca tur, perdit securitatem, tantoque se ipsam minus rogitat, quanto magis secura est quod se non possit amittere. Ita cum aliud sit non se nosse, aliud non se cogitare neque enim multarum doctrinarum pe ritum, ignorare grammaticam dicimus, cum eam non cogitat, quia de medicinæ arte tunc cogitat): cum ergo aliud sit non se nosse, aliud non se cogitare, tanta vis est amoris, ut ea quae cum amore diu co gitaverit, eisque curæ glutino inhæserit, attrahat secum eliam cum ad se cogitandam quodam modo redit. Et quia illa corpora sunt, quæ foris per sensus carnis adamavit, eorumque diuturna quadam fami liaritate implicata est, nec secum potest introrsum tanquam in regionem incorporeæ naturæ ipsa cor pora inferre, imagines eorum convolvit, et rapit factas in scmetipsa de semeiipsa. Dat enim eis for mandis quiddam substantiæ suæ: servat autem ali quid quo libere de specie talium imaginum judicet, et hoc est magis mens, id est rationalis intelligentia, quæ servatur ut judicet. Nam illas animæ partes quae corporum similitudinibus informantur, etiam cum bestiis nos communes habere sentimus.
Why then has it been commanded to know itself? I believe it is so that it may think about itself and live according to its nature, that is, seek to be set in order according to its nature: under him, namely, to whom it is to be subject, and above those things to which it is to be preferred; under him by whom it ought to be ruled, above the things it ought to rule. For through perverse desire it does many things as though it had forgotten itself. For it sees certain things inwardly beautiful in a more excellent nature, which is God; and when it ought to stand still in order to enjoy them, wishing to claim them for itself, and to be what he is not from him, like him, but from itself, it turns away from him, and is moved and slips down into less and less, which it thinks is more and more; because neither it itself nor anything else is enough for it as it withdraws from him who alone is enough. And so through want and difficulty it becomes excessively intent on its own actions and on the restless pleasures which it gathers through them; and so, through the desire of acquiring knowledge from the things that are outside, whose kind it knows and loves and feels can be lost unless it is held with spent care, it loses its security, and thinks of itself the less, the more secure it is that it cannot lose itself. So, since it is one thing not to know oneself and another not to think of oneself (for we do not say that a man skilled in many branches of learning is ignorant of grammar when he is not thinking of it because he is then thinking of the art of medicine), since, then, it is one thing not to know oneself and another not to think of oneself, so great is the power of love that the mind draws along with it the things it has long thought of with love, and to which it has stuck by the glue of care, even when it returns in some way to think of itself. And because those things are bodies, which it has loved outside through the senses of the flesh, and with which it has become entangled by a kind of long familiarity, and it cannot bring the bodies themselves in with it inwardly, as into the region of incorporeal nature, it rolls together their images and snatches them, made in itself from itself. For it gives something of its own substance to forming them; but it keeps something by which it may freely judge the form of such images, and this is more truly mind, that is, rational understanding, which is kept in order to judge. For we perceive that those parts of the soul which are shaped by the likenesses of bodies we have in common even with the beasts.
Luke 15:13 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: The command to know oneself means to think on oneself and keep one's place under God; turning from God, the mind becomes absorbed in bodily things and carries their images within it, though it keeps its power to judge them.
- “Know yourself”: the Delphic precept. The phrase “in longinqua” in 10.3 and the slipping “into less and less” here echo the prodigal son (Luke 15:13).
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 10.5 (PL 42:977; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-10-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.6PL 42:977
Errat autem mens, cum se istis imaginibus tanto amore conjungit, ut eliam se esse aliquid hujus modi existimet. Iia enim conformatur eis quodam modo, non id cxistendo, sed putando: non quo se imaginem putet; sed omnino illud ipsum cujus ima ginem secum habet. Viget quippe in ea judicium discerneidi corpus quod foris relinquit, ab imagine * quam de illo secum gerit: nisi cum ita exprimuntur eaedem imngincs tanquam foris sentiantur, non intus cogitentur, sicut dormientibus, aut furentibus, aut in aliqua ecstasi accidere solct.
But the mind errs when it joins itself to these images with such great love that it even thinks itself to be something of this kind. For so it is in a certain way conformed to them, not by being so but by thinking so; not that it thinks itself to be an image, but wholly the very thing whose image it has with it. For the judgement to distinguish the body which it leaves outside from the image which it carries with it about that body is still strong in it; except when these same images are so expressed that they are perceived as if outside, not thought within, as usually happens to those asleep, or mad, or in some ecstasy.
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Summary: The mind errs when it loves bodily images so much that it thinks itself to be a body, though it still distinguishes images from bodies except in sleep, madness, or ecstasy.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 10.6 (PL 42:977; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/9-11/#p-10-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).