To the Nations 2.17

Summary: Rome's empire was not a reward for its religion, which it plundered in conquering others; the one God who orders the times gives and takes away kingdoms.

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Latin text · Oehler 1:392–395

Denique religionis vestrae tutoribus suis non negatis omnibus his quos deos antiquitas voluit, posteritas credidit, nobis superest adhuc illa Romanarum superstitionum praegrandis praesumptio, cui adversus vos, nationes, congredi habemus, propterea scilicet Romanos totius orbis dominos atque arbitros factos fuisse, quod officiis religionum meruerint dominare sic, ut parum absit, quin ipsis suis deis praevaleant. Nimirum Sterculus, et Mutunus, et Larentina provexit hoc imperium. Unus Romanorum destinatus a suis deis dominationi populus. Peregrinos enim non putem extraneo potius populo factum voluisse quam suo, ut fierent desertores et destitutores, immo proditores patrii soli, in quo nati, adulti, nobilitati sepultique sunt. Ita ne Iuppiter quidem Cretam suam Romanis fascibus concuti sineret, oblitus antrum illud Idaeum et aera Corybantia et nutricis suae illic iucundissimum odorem. Nonne omni Capitolio tumulum illum suum praeposuisset, ut illa potius terra regnaret quae Iovis cineres texit? Vellet Iuno Punicam urbem posthabita Samo dilectam et utique Aeneadarum ignibus adoleri? Quod sciam hic illius arma, Hic currus fuit, hoc regnum dea gentibus esse, Si qua fata sinant, iam tunc tenditque fovetque. Misera adversus fata non valuit! Nec tamen tantum honoris Romani fatis decreverunt, ut dedentibus Carthaginem sibi, quantum Larentinae. Sed dei isti conferendi regni in potestate non sunt. Si regnavit enim Iuppiter Cretae et Saturnus Italiae et Isis Aegypte, et homines regnaverunt, quibus etiam operati plerique traduntur. Ita qui servit, et dominos facit, et dediticius Admeti cives Romanos imperio auget, dum liberalem cultorem suum Croesum ambiguis sortibus fallendo perdidit. Quid timebat deus verum constanter praenuntiare regno excidendum ei esse? Aucti potestate regnandi quoque veluti urbes suas tueri unquam potuissent! Si Romanis praestitisse valuerunt, cur Athenas a Xerxe Minerva non defendit? vel cur Delphos de manu Pyrrhi Apollo non eruit? Servant urbem Romam qui suas perdiderunt, si hoc religiositas Romana meruit. Atqui non post summum imperium auctis iam rebus superstitio quaesita est? Etsi a Numa sacra introducta sunt, nondum tamen aut simulacris aut templis res vestras divina frustrabant. Frugi religio et paupertina superstitio; altaria temeraria et vasa sordida, et nidor parvus ex illis, et deus ipse nusquam. Ergo non ante religiosi quam maiores, quia religiosi. Atquin quomodo summam ob religionem et deorum profundissimam curam imperium Romanis quaesitum videri possit, quod laesis potius deis auctum est? Nisi fallor enim omne regnum vel imperium bellis quaeritur et bellis ampliatur. Porro laeduntur victoribus et dei urbis. Nam eadem strages et moenium et templorum, pares caedes et civium et sacerdotum, eaedem rapinae profanorum et sacrorum. Tot sacrilegia Romanorum quot tropaea, tot deinde de deis quot de gentibus triumphi. Manent et simulacra captiva, et utique si sentiunt victores suos, non amant. Sed quia nihil sentiunt, inpune laeduntur, et quia inpune laeduntur, frustra adorantur. Itaque quorum fastigium per victorias adultum est, non possunt videri religionis meritis excrevisse, sive crescendo laesores religionis, sive laedendo creverunt. Regnum universae nationes suis quaeque temporibus habuerunt, ut Assyrii, ut Medi, ut Persae, ut Aegyptii; est et adhuc penes quosdam, et tamen qui amiserunt, non sine religionibus et cultu et depropitiorum deorum morabantur, donec postremo Romanis cessit universa paene dominatio. Sors temporum ita volutavit regna. Quaerite quis temporum vices ordinavit. Idem regna dispensat, et nunc penes Romanos eam summam tanquam pecuniam de multis nominibus exactam in unam arcam congregavit. Quid de ea statuerit sciunt proximi ei.

English · Claude translation

Finally, since you do not deny to the guardians of your religion all these whom antiquity willed to be gods and posterity believed, there remains for us that enormous presumption of Roman superstition, over which we have to engage with you, nations: that the Romans became masters and arbiters of the whole world because by the duties of religion they deserved to rule, so much so that they come near to surpassing their gods themselves. No doubt Sterculus, and Mutunus, and Larentina advanced this empire! The Romans, one people destined by its gods for dominion! For I would not think that foreign gods wished this done for an alien people rather than their own, so as to become deserters and abandoners, nay traitors, of their native soil, in which they were born, grew up, gained renown, and were buried. So not even Jupiter would allow his Crete to be shaken by the Roman fasces, forgetting that Idaean cave, and the Corybantian bronzes, and the most pleasant smell of his nurse there. Would he not have preferred that tomb of his to the whole Capitol, so that the land which covers Jupiter's ashes might rather reign? Would Juno want the Punic city, loved above Samos, to be burned, and by the fires of Aeneas's race at that? As far as I know, “Here were her arms, here her chariot; that this should be the kingdom of the nations, if the fates allowed, the goddess even then strives and fosters.” Poor thing, she could not prevail against the fates! And yet the Romans did not decree as much honor to the fates, who surrendered Carthage to them, as they did to Larentina. But these gods do not have the power of conferring a kingdom. For if Jupiter reigned in Crete, and Saturn in Italy, and Isis in Egypt, they reigned as men, and many of them are recorded as having worked for others. So the one who serves also makes masters, and the bondsman of Admetus enlarges the Roman citizens with empire, while he ruined his generous worshipper Croesus by deceiving him with ambiguous oracles. What was the god afraid of, that he did not steadily foretell the truth, that Croesus was to lose his kingdom? As if, enriched with the power of reigning, they could ever have protected their own cities! If they had power to grant it to the Romans, why did Minerva not defend Athens from Xerxes? Or why did Apollo not rescue Delphi from the hand of Pyrrhus? Those who lost their own cities preserve the city of Rome, if Roman religiosity has earned this! And yet was not superstition sought out after the supreme empire had been won, when the state had already grown? Although rites were introduced by Numa, still the divine did not yet mock your affairs with images or temples. Religion was frugal, and superstition poor; altars were makeshift and vessels plain, the smoke from them slight, and the god himself nowhere. So they were not religious before they were great, as though they were great because they were religious. And yet how can empire seem to have been won by the Romans on account of supreme religion and the deepest care for the gods, when it was increased rather by injuring the gods? For, unless I am mistaken, every kingdom or empire is won by wars and enlarged by wars. But the gods of a city too are injured by the victors. For there is the same destruction of walls and temples, equal slaughter of citizens and priests, the same plunder of things profane and sacred. As many trophies as the Romans have, so many sacrileges; as many triumphs over nations, so many over gods. The captive images still remain, and surely, if they perceive their conquerors, they do not love them. But because they perceive nothing, they are injured with impunity, and because they are injured with impunity, they are adored in vain. So those whose eminence grew through victories cannot be thought to have grown by the merits of religion, whether they injured religion by growing or grew by injuring it. All nations have held dominion, each in its own time, as the Assyrians, the Medes, the Persians, the Egyptians; some hold it still; and yet those who lost it were not without religions and worship and gods to propitiate, until at last almost universal dominion passed to the Romans. The lot of the times has so turned kingdoms about. Ask who ordered the changes of the times. The same one dispenses kingdoms, and has now gathered that supreme power among the Romans, like money exacted from many debtors, into one chest. What he has determined about it, those near him know.

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Source
Oehler 1:392–395 · Franz Oehler, ed., Quinti Septimii Florentis Tertulliani quae supersunt omnia, vol. 1 (Leipzig: T. O. Weigel, 1853), 305–395 · Latin text: Franz Oehler (Oehler 1), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library (canonical-latinLit), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Oehler 1. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Oehler 1; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Scripture
Extrabiblical texts
  • Herodotus, Hist. 1.53 (Herodotus, Histories) · allusion, medium confidence
  • Virgil, Aen. 1.16–18 (Virgil) · quotation, high confidence

Notes

Translation notes

  • The verses are Virgil, Aeneid 1.16–18. The “bondsman of Admetus” is Apollo, who served Admetus; his ambiguous oracle to Croesus is told in Herodotus 1.53. God's ordering of the times and kingdoms echoes Dan 2:21.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (l misread for I in the digital text): luppiter Cretae → Iuppiter Cretae.

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Tertullian, Nat. 2.17 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-nationes/2/17/).

Plain text
Tertullian, Nat. 2.17 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-nationes/2/17/).

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