Against Celsus 8.68

Summary: Celsus quotes Homer that kings are given by Zeus and warns that if all behaved like Christians the empire would fall to barbarians; Origen replies that kings are set up by God, Christians honour the king, and if all believed, even barbarians would become peaceable.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:284–285

Εἶθʼ ἑξῆς φησιν ὁ Κέλσος ὅτι οὐ χρὴ ἀπιστεῖν ἀνδρὶ ἀρχαίῳ, πάλαι προειπόντι τό· εἷς βασιλεὺς, ᾧ ἔδωκε Κρόνου παῖς ἀγκυλομήτεω. καὶ ἐπιφέρει· ὡς, ἂν τοῦτο λύσῃς τὸ δόγμα, εἰκότως ἀμυνεῖταί σε ὁ βασιλεύς. εἰ γὰρ τὸ αὐτό σοι ποιήσειαν ἅπαντες, οὐδὲν κωλύσει τὸν μὲν καταλειφθῆναι μόνον καὶ ἔρημον, τὰ δʼ ἐπὶ γῆς ἐπὶ τοῖς ἀνομωτάτοις τε καὶ ἀγριωτάτοις βαρβάροις γενέσθαι, καὶ μήτε τῆς σῆς θρησκείας μήτε τῆς ἀληθινῆς σοφίας ἐν ἀνθρώποις ἔτι καταλείπεσθαι κλέος. εἷς μὲν οὖν κοίρανος ἔστω, εἷς βασιλεὺς, οὐχ ᾧ ἔδωκε Κρόνου παῖς ἀγκυλομήτεω, ἀλλʼ ᾧ ἔδωκεν ὁ καθιστῶν „βασιλεῖς καὶ“ μεθιστῶν „καὶ τὸν χρήσιμον“ κατὰ καιρὸν ἐγείρων ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς· καὶ οὐχ ὁ τοῦ καταταρταρωθέντος, ὡς οἱ μῦθοι Ἑλλήνων λέγουσι, Κρόνου υἱὸς ἀπελάσας τοῦτον τῆς ἀρχῆς καθίστησι βασιλεῖς, οὐδʼ ἂν ἀλληγορῇ τις τὰ κατὰ τοὺς τόπους, ἀλλʼ ὁ διοικῶν τὰ σύμπαντα θεὸς οἶδεν ὅ τι ποτὲ ποιεῖ κατὰ τὸν τόπον τῆς τῶν βασιλέων καταστάσεως. λύομεν οὖν τὸ δόγμα· ᾧ ἔδωκε Κρόνου παῖς ἀγκυλομήτεω, οὐδὲν ἀγκύλον καὶ σκολιὸν βούλεσθαι πειθόμενοι θεὸν ἢ πατέρα θεοῦ. οὐ λύομεν δὲ τὸ δόγμα τὸ περὶ προνοίας καὶ τῶν εἴτε προηγουμένως ὑπʼ αὐτῆς γινομένων εἴτε καὶ ἔκ τινων ἐπακολουθούντων. ἀλλʼ οὐδʼ εἰκότως ἡμᾶς ἀμύνεται βασιλεὺς, φάσκοντας μὲν ὅτι οὐ Κρόνου παῖς ἀγκυλομήτεω ἔδωκεν αὐτῷ τὸ βασιλεύειν, ὁ δὲ μεθιστῶν „βασιλεῖς καὶ“ καθιστῶν. καὶ τὸ αὐτό γε ποιείτωσάν μοι ἅπαντες, τὸ μὲν Ὁμηρικὸν καταλύοντες δόγμα τὸ δὲ θεῖον περὶ βασιλέως τηροῦντες καὶ τὸ „τὸν βασιλέα τιμᾶτε“ φυλάττοντες· καὶ τὸ ὡς ἐν ὑποθέσει γε τοιαύτῃ οὔτε μόνος ὁ βασιλεὺς καταλειφθήσεται οὔτʼ ἔρημος ἔσται οὔτε τὰ ἐπὶ γῆς ἐπὶ τοῖς ἀνομωτάτοις καὶ ἀγριωτάτοις βαρβάροις ἔσται. εἰ γὰρ, ὡς λέγει Κέλσος, τὸ αὐτό μοι ποιήσειαν ἅπαντες, δηλονότι καὶ οἱ βάρβαροι τῷ λόγῳ τοῦ θεοῦ προσελθόντες νομιμώτατοι ἔσονται καὶ ἡμερώτατοι· καὶ πᾶσα μὲν θρησκεία καταλυθήσεται μόνη δὲ ἡ Χριστιανῶν κρατήσει, ἥτις καὶ μόνη ποτὲ κρατήσει, τοῦ λόγου ἀεὶ πλείονας νεμομένου ψυχάς.

English · Claude translation

Next Celsus says that “one ought not to disbelieve an ancient man who long ago declared, ‘Let there be one king, to whom the son of crooked-counselling Kronos gave it.’” And he adds: “For if you undo this doctrine, the king will rightly punish you. For if all were to do the same as you, nothing would prevent him from being left alone and deserted, and the things on earth from falling into the hands of the most lawless and savage barbarians, and neither the fame of your worship nor of true wisdom would be left among men any longer.” Let there be one lord, then, one king, not the one “to whom the son of crooked-counselling Kronos gave it,” but the one to whom he gave it who sets up “kings and” removes them, “and raises up the useful man” on the earth at the right time; and it is not the son of Kronos, who was cast down into Tartarus, as the myths of the Greeks say, driving him from his rule, who sets up kings, not even if one allegorizes these passages; but God who governs all things knows what he does in the matter of the setting up of kings. We do, then, undo the doctrine, “to whom the son of crooked-counselling Kronos gave it,” since we are persuaded that God, or the Father of God, wishes nothing crooked or twisted. But we do not undo the doctrine about providence and about what happens by it, whether primarily or as consequences of other things. Nor would the king rightly punish us for saying that it was not the son of crooked-counselling Kronos who gave him his kingship, but he who removes “kings and” sets them up. And let all do the same as I do, overthrowing the Homeric doctrine, keeping the divine one about the king, and observing “Honour the king”; and on such a hypothesis the king will not be left alone, nor will he be deserted, nor will the things on earth be in the hands of the most lawless and savage barbarians. For if, as Celsus says, all were to do the same as I, clearly the barbarians too, having come to the Word of God, will be most law-abiding and most gentle; and every worship will be destroyed, and only that of the Christians will prevail; which indeed will one day alone prevail, as the Word continually wins more souls.

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Source
Koetschau 2:284–285 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Scripture
Extrabiblical texts
  • Homer, Il. 2.204–205 (Homer, Iliad) · quotation, high confidence
  • Sir 10:4 (Sirach) · quotation, high confidence
Topics
Eschatology

Notes

Translation notes

  • The quotations are Homer, Iliad 2.204–205, Dan 2:21, Sir 10:4, and 1 Pet 2:17. Origen's confidence that Christian worship alone will one day prevail is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text): λέγρυσι → λέγουσι.

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Origen, Cels. 8.68 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/68/).

Plain text
Origen, Cels. 8.68 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/68/).

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