Against Celsus 8.50

Summary: Christians long only for what God promises the righteous, including the resurrection; the body is honoured when it suffers for virtue and dishonoured by vice, and a true lover of mankind would reason even with the simple rather than despise them.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:265–266

Ἐπεὶ δʼ ὀνειδίζει ἡμῖν καὶ ὡς ποθοῦσι τὸ σῶμα, ἴστω ὅτι, εἰ μὲν ὁ πόθος φαῦλόν ἐστιν, οὐδὲν ποθοῦμεν, εἰ δὲ μέσον, ποθοῦμεν πάντα ὅσα θεὸς τοῖς δικαίοις ἐπαγγέλλεται. οὕτως οὖν καὶ τὴν τῶν δικαίων ἀνάστασιν ποθοῦμεν καὶ ἐλπίζομεν. νομίζει δὲ Κέλσος καὶ ἀνομολογούμενα ἡμᾶς ἑαυτοῖς ποιεῖν, ὅπου μὲν ἐλπίζουσι τὴν τοῦ σώματος ἀνάστασιν, ὡς τῆς παρὰ θεοῦ τιμῆς ἀξίου. ὅπου δὲ ῥίπτουσιν αὐτὸ εἰς κολάσεις ὡς ἄτιμον. οὐδὲν οὖν ἄτιμον τὸ διʼ εὐσέβειαν πάσχον καὶ διʼ ἀρετὴν περιστάσεις αἱρούμενον. ἀλλὰ καὶ πᾶν ἄτιμον τὸ μετὰ κακίας ἐν ἡδοναῖς καταναλισκόμενον. φησὶ γοῦν καὶ ὁ θεῖος λόγος· „σπέρμα ἔντιμον ποῖον; σπέρμα ἀνθρώπου· σπέρμα ἄτιμον ποῖον; σπέρμα ἀνθρώπου.“ εἶτʼ οἴεται μὴ διαλέγεσθαι δεῖν τοῖς τὰ περὶ τοῦ σώματος ἐλπίζουσιν ὁ Κέλσος ὡς συντετηκόσιν ἀλόγως πράγματι ἀδυνάτῳ τυχεῖν τῶν ἐλπιζομένων ὑπʼ αὐτῶν, ἀγροίκους καὶ ἀκαθάρτους αὐτοὺς καλῶν καὶ χωρὶς λόγου συνόντας τῇ στάσει· δέον ὡς φιλάνθρωπον καὶ τοῖς ἀγροικοτέροις βοηθεῖν. οὐδὲ γὰρ τὸ κοινωνικὸν περιγέγραπται ὥσπερ ἀπὸ τῶν ἀλόγων ζῴων οὕτω καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν ἀγροικοτέρων ἀνθρώπων, ἀλλʼ ἐπʼ ἴσης ὁ ποιήσας ἡμᾶς πρὸς πάντας ἀνθρώπους πεποίηκε κοινωνικούς. ἄξιον οὖν διαλέγεσθαι καὶ ἀγροίκοις καὶ ὅση δύναμις μετάγειν αὐτοὺς ἐπὶ τὸ ἀστειότερον καὶ ἀκαθάρτοις καὶ ποιεῖν αὐτοὺς, ὡς οἷόν τε ἐστὶ, καθαρωτέρους καὶ τοῖς χωρὶς λόγου ὅ τι ποτʼ οὖν φρονοῦσι καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν νοσοῦσιν, ἵνα μηκέτι χωρὶς λόγου τι πράττωσι μηδὲ τὴν ψυχὴν νοσήσωσι.

English · Claude translation

And since he reproaches us as longing for the body, let him know that if longing is something bad, we long for nothing; but if it is indifferent, we long for everything that God promises to the righteous. So too we long for and hope for the resurrection of the righteous. Celsus thinks that we are also inconsistent with ourselves, when on the one hand we hope for the resurrection of the body, as worthy of honour from God, and on the other hand cast it into punishments as dishonourable. But nothing is dishonourable that suffers for piety and chooses hardships for virtue; while everything is dishonourable that is spent in pleasures with wickedness. The divine Word at any rate says, “What seed is honoured? The seed of man. What seed is dishonoured? The seed of man.” Then Celsus thinks one must not discuss with those who hope for things concerning the body, as being unreasonably glued to a thing that cannot obtain what they hope for, calling them rustic and impure and without reason sharing in the sedition; whereas he ought, as a lover of mankind, to help even the more rustic. For fellowship is not cut off from the more rustic among men as it is from the irrational animals, but he who made us made us equally for fellowship with all men. It is worth while, then, to discuss even with rustics and to bring them, as far as possible, to a more cultivated state, and with the impure, to make them purer as far as possible, and with those who think whatever they think without reason and are sick in soul, so that they may no longer do anything without reason nor be sick in soul.

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Source
Koetschau 2:265–266 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Extrabiblical texts
  • Sir 10:19 (Sirach) · quotation, high confidence
Topics
Eschatology, Ethics

Notes

Translation notes

  • The quotation is Sir 10:19. The digital text marks unreadable characters after “sedition” (στάσει(??)) and in ὅ τι(??)ποτʼ; the sentence is complete without them, and the wording follows Celsus's words quoted in 8.49.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (unreadable characters marked in the digital text; nothing appears lost; unreadable characters marked in the digital text; the reading is certain from context): τῇ στάσει(??) δέον → τῇ στάσει· δέον; ὅ τι(??)ποτʼ → ὅ τι ποτʼ.

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Origen, Cels. 8.50 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/50/).

Plain text
Origen, Cels. 8.50 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/50/).

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