Against Celsus 7.6

Summary: Apollo chose no wise person as his prophet and praised Socrates less for wisdom than for his sacrifices, and Homer's Chryses shows that such powers answer bribes of sacrifice, marks of demons, not gods.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:157–159

Νυνὶ δὲ ὁ θαυμαζόμενος παρʼ Ἕλλησι Πύθιος οὐδένα μὲν σοφὸν ἀλλʼ οὐδʼ ὅλως ἄνδρα ἄξιον ἔκρινε τῆς, ὡς Ἕλληνες ὑπολαμβάνουσι, θείας κατακωχῆς. ἀλλʼ οὐδʼ ἐν τῷ θήλει γένει παρθένον τινὰ ἢ σοφὴν καὶ ἀπὸ φιλοσοφίας ὠφελημένην ἀλλά τινα γυναῖκα ἰδιῶτιν· τάχα γὰρ οἱ ἐν ἀνθρώποις κρείττονες βελτίους ἦσαν τῆς εἰς τὴν κατακωχὴν ἐνεργείας αὐτοῦ. ἔδει δὲ καὶ. εἴπερ θεὸς ἦν, τῇ προγνώσει αὐτὸν χρήσασθαι δελέατι, ἵνʼ οὕτως ὀνομάσω, πρὸς τὴν ἐπιστροφὴν καὶ θεραπείαν καὶ ἠθικὴν κατόρθωσιν τῶν ἀνθρώπων· νυνὶ δὲ οὐδὲν ἡ ἱστορία τοιοῦτον παραδίδωσι περὶ αὐτοῦ. εἰ γὰρ καὶ ἀνδρῶν ἁπάντων Σωκράτην εἶπε σοφώτατον εἶναι, ἤμβλυνε τὸν ἔπαινον αὐτοῦ τὸ πρὸς τούτου λεγόμενον περὶ Εὐριπίδου καὶ Σοφοκλέους ἐν τῷ· σοφὸς Σοφοκλῆς, σοφώτερος δʼ Εὐριπίδης. τραγῳδιοποιῶν οὖν σοφῶν ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ λελεγμένων κρείττων εἶναι νομισθεὶς ὁ Σωκράτης, τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς σκηνῆς καὶ τῆς ὀρχήστρας τοῦ τυχόντος ἄθλου ἕνεκεν ἀγωνιζομένων καὶ ὅπου μὲν λύπας καὶ οἴκτους τοῖς θεαταῖς ἐμποιούντων ὅπου δὲ ἀσέμνους γέλωτας (τοιοῦτον γάρ τι βούλεται τὰ σατυρικὰ δράματα), οὐ πάνυ τι τὸ διὰ φιλοσοφίαν καὶ ἀλήθειαν ἐμφαίνει σεμνὸν καὶ διὰ σεμνότητα ἐπαινετόν. καὶ τάχα οὐ τοσοῦτον διὰ φιλοσοφίαν ἀνδρῶν εἶπεν αὐτὸν ἁπάντων σοφώτατον ὅσον διὰ τὰς θυσίας καὶ ἃς προσήνεγκε κνίσσας αὐτῷ τε καὶ τοῖς λοιποῖς δαίμοσι. καὶ διὰ ταῦτα ἐοίκασι μᾶλλον ποιεῖν οἱ δαίμονες τὰ ἀξιούμενα ὑπὸ τῶν αὐτοῖς προσαγόντων ἢ διὰ τὰ ἔργα τῆς ἀρετῆς. διόπερ διαγράφων τὰ γινόμενα ὁ τῶν ποιητῶν ἄριστος Ὅμηρος καὶ διδάσκων, τίνα μάλιστά ἐστι τὰ πείθοντα τοὺς δαίμονας ποιεῖν ἃ βούλονται οἱ θύοντες, εἰσήγαγε τὸν Χρύσην, ἕνεκεν ὀλίγων στεφάνων καὶ μηρίων ταύρων καὶ αἰγῶν τυγχάνοντα ὧν ᾔτησε καθʼ Ἑλλήνων διὰ τὴν θυγατέρα, ἵνα λοιμώξαντες ἀποδώσειαν αὐτῷ τὴν Χρυσηΐδα. μέμνημαι δὲ παρά τινι τῶν Πυθαγορείων, ἀναγράψαντι περὶ τῶν ἐν ὑπονοίᾳ παρὰ τῷ ποιητῇ λελεγμένων, ἀναγνοὺς ὅτι τὰ τοῦ Χρύσου πρὸς τὸν Ἀπόλλωνα ἔπη καὶ ὁ ἐξ Ἀπόλλωνος ἐπιπεμφθεὶς τοῖς Ἕλλησι λοιμὸς διδάσκει ὅτι ἠπίστατο Ὅμηρος πονηρούς τινας δαίμονας, χαίροντας ταῖς κνίσσαις καὶ ταῖς θυσίαις, μισθοὺς ἀποδιδόναι τοῖς θύσασι τὴν ἑτέρων φθορὰν, εἰ τοιοῦτο οἱ θύοντες εὔχοιντο. καὶ ὁ „Δωδώνης“ δὲ „μεδέων δυσχειμέρου, “ παρʼ ᾧ εἰσιν οἱ προφῆται „ἀνιπτόποδες χαμαιεῦναι, “ ἀποδοκιμάσας τὸ τῶν ἀνδρῶν εἰς προφητείαν γένος ταῖς Δωδωνίσι χρῆται, ὡς καὶ ὁ Κέλσος παρέστησεν. ἔστω δέ τις τούτοις παραπλήσιος Κλάριος καὶ ἕτερος ἐν Βραγχίδαις καὶ ἄλλος ἐν Ἄμμωνος ἢ ὅποι ποτὲ γῆς μαντευόμενοι, πόθεν οὖν δειχθήσεται εἰ καὶ θεοὶ μέν εἰσιν οὐ δαιμόνια δέ τινα;

English · Claude translation

But as it is, the Pythian god admired among the Greeks judged no wise man, nor indeed any man at all, worthy of what the Greeks suppose to be divine possession; nor, among women, a virgin or a wise woman helped by philosophy, but an ordinary woman. Perhaps the better people were too good for his activity of possession. And if he were a god, he ought to have used his foreknowledge as a bait, so to speak, for the conversion, healing, and moral improvement of men; but as it is, history records nothing of the kind about him. For even if he said that Socrates was the wisest of all men, he blunted his praise by what he said before this about Euripides and Sophocles: “Sophocles is wise, Euripides wiser.” So Socrates, being thought better than tragic poets called wise by him, men who compete on the stage and in the orchestra for any prize at all and who produce now grief and pity in the spectators, now indecent laughter (for that is the aim of satyr plays), is not at all shown to be venerable for philosophy and truth and praiseworthy for his venerableness. And perhaps he called him the wisest of all men not so much for his philosophy as for the sacrifices and the savour of fat he offered to him and to the other demons. For the demons seem to do what is asked of them by those who bring them offerings more for these reasons than for the works of virtue. That is why Homer, the best of poets, describing what happens and teaching what most persuades the demons to do what those who sacrifice wish, brought in Chryses, who, for a few garlands and thigh-pieces of bulls and goats, obtained what he asked against the Greeks for the sake of his daughter, so that they would be struck by plague and give him back Chryseis. I remember reading in one of the Pythagoreans, who wrote about the hidden meanings in the poet, that the words of Chryses to Apollo and the plague sent by Apollo on the Greeks teach that Homer knew that certain evil demons, delighting in savour and sacrifices, pay as wages to those who sacrifice the destruction of others, if the sacrificers pray for this. And “the lord of wintry Dodona,” whose prophets are “men with unwashed feet who sleep on the ground,” having rejected the male sex for prophecy, uses the priestesses of Dodona, as Celsus himself noted. Let there be one like these at Claros, another at Branchidae, another at the shrine of Ammon, or wherever on earth they prophesy: how, then, will it be shown that they are gods and not certain demons?

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Source
Koetschau 2:157–159 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Extrabiblical texts
  • Plato, Apol. 21a (Plato (works)) · allusion, high confidence
  • Homer, Il. 1.37–42 (Homer, Iliad) · allusion, high confidence
  • Homer, Il. 16.234–235 (Homer, Iliad) · quotation, high confidence

Notes

Translation notes

  • The oracle about Socrates is in Plato, Apology 21a; the verse “Sophocles is wise, Euripides wiser” is an oracle reported by later writers. The passages of Homer are Iliad 1.37–42 (Chryses) and Iliad 16.234–235 (Dodona). The Pythagorean interpreter of Homer is unidentified.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing breathing and accent in the digital text): τραγῳδιοποιῶν ουν → τραγῳδιοποιῶν οὖν.

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Origen, Cels. 7.6 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/6/).

Plain text
Origen, Cels. 7.6 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/6/).

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