Against Celsus 6.7
Summary: Moses and the prophets could not have borrowed from Plato, who lived later, and Scripture itself commends searching inquiry and argument.
Greek text · Koetschau 2:76–77
Πολλὰ δʼ ἂν καὶ παρὰ τῷ Μωϋσεῖ εὑρεθείη καὶ τοῖς προφήταις, οὐ μόνον Πλάτωνος ἀλλὰ καὶ Ὁμήρου καὶ τῆς τῶν παρʼ Ἕλλησι γραμμάτων εὑρέσεως πρεσβυτέροις, ἄξια τῆς εἰς αὐτοὺς χάριτος τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ μεγαλονοίας πεπληρωμένα· οἵτινες οὐχ, ὡς οἴεται Κέλσος, παρακούσαντες τοῦ Πλάτωνος τοιαῦτʼ εἰρήκασι. πῶς γὰρ οἷόν τʼ ἦν τοῦ μηδέπω γενομένου αὐτοὺς ἀκηκοέναι; ἵνα δὲ καὶ ἐπὶ τοὺς Ἰησοῦ ἀποστόλους τις, νεωτέρους γενομένους Πλάτωνος, ἀναγάγῃ τὸν Κέλσου λόγον, ὅρα εἰ μὴ αὐτόθεν ἀπίθανόν ἐστι τὸ λέγειν Παῦλον τὸν σκηνοποιὸν καὶ Πέτρον τὸν ἁλιέα καὶ Ἰωάννην τὸν καταλιπόντα τὰ δίκτυα τοῦ πατρὸς, παρακούσαντας τῶν Πλάτωνι ἐν ταῖς ἐπιστολαῖς εἰρημένων, τοιαῦτα περὶ τοῦ θεοῦ παραδεδωκέναι. πολλάκις δὲ ἤδη ὁ Κέλσος θρυλήσας ὡς ἀξιούμενον εὐθέως πιστεύειν, ὡς καινόν τι παρὰ τὰ πρότερον εἰρημένα πάλιν αὐτό φησιν· ἀρκεῖ δʼ ἡμῖν τὰ εἰς ταῦτα λελεγμένα. ἐπεὶ δὲ καὶ ἄλλην λέξιν ἐκτίθεται Πλάτωνος διʼ ὧν φησιν, „ἐρωτήσεσι καὶ ἀποκρίσεσι χρωμένων“ ἐλλάμπειν φρόνησιν τοῖς κατʼ αὐτὸν φιλοσοφοῦσι, φέρε παραδείξωμεν ἀπὸ τῶν ἱερῶν γραμμάτων ὅτι προτρέπει καὶ ὁ θεῖος λόγος ἡμᾶς ἐπὶ διαλεκτικὴν, ὅπου μὲν Σολομῶντος λέγοντος· „παιδεία δὲ ἀνεξέλεγκτος πλανᾶται, “ ὅπου δὲ τοῦ τὸ σύγγραμμα τὴν Σοφίαν ἡμῖν καταλιπόντος Ἰησοῦ υἱοῦ Σιρὰχ φάσκοντος· „γνῶσις ἀσυνέτου ἀδιεξέταστοι λόγοι.“ εὐμενεῖς οὖν ἔλεγχοι παρʼ ἡμῖν εἰσι μᾶλλον. τοῖς μαθοῦσιν ὅτι δεῖ τὸν προϊστάμενον τοῦ λόγου δυνατὸν εἶναι „τοὺς ἀντιλέγοντας ἐλέγχειν.“ εἰ δὲ ῥᾳθυμοῦσί τινες, οὐκ ἀσκοῦντες προσέχειν ταῖς θείαις ἀναγνώσεσι καὶ ἐρευνᾶν „τὰς γραφὰς“ καὶ κατὰ τὴν ἐντολὴν τοῦ Ἰησοῦ ζητεῖν τὴν διάνοιαν τῶν γραφῶν καὶ αἰτεῖν περὶ αὐτῶν ἀπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ κρούειν αὐτῶν τὰ κεκλεισμένα, οὐ παρὰ τοῦτο ὁ λόγος κενός ἐστι σοφίας.
English · Claude translation
And many things may be found in Moses and the prophets, who are older not only than Plato but also than Homer and the invention of writing among the Greeks, that are worthy of the grace of God given to them and full of greatness of mind; and they did not say such things, as Celsus supposes, because they had misunderstood Plato. For how could they have heard a man who had not yet been born? And even if someone applies Celsus's argument to the apostles of Jesus, who lived later than Plato, see whether it is not plainly unconvincing to say that Paul the tentmaker, and Peter the fisherman, and John who left his father's nets, handed down such teachings about God because they had misunderstood what Plato says in his letters. Celsus has already harped many times on our being required to believe at once, and he says it again as though it were something new beside what he had said before; what we have said on these points is enough for us. But since he also sets out another passage of Plato, in which he says that wisdom shines upon those who philosophize after his manner “as they use questions and answers,” let us show from the sacred writings that the divine word too urges us to dialectic: in one place Solomon says, “Instruction that is not examined goes astray,” and in another Jesus the son of Sirach, who left us the book called Wisdom, says, “The knowledge of the senseless is words that have not been examined.” Kindly refutations are, then, rather to be found among us, who have learned that the one who presides over the word must be able “to refute those who contradict.” And if some are negligent, not training themselves to attend to the divine readings and to “search the Scriptures,” and, according to the commandment of Jesus, to seek the meaning of the Scriptures, to ask God about them, and to knock at what is shut in them, that does not make the word empty of wisdom.
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- The Platonic phrase is from Plato, Letter 7, 344b. The quotations are Prov 10:17 LXX, Sir 21:18 (Origen calls the book “Wisdom”), Titus 1:9, and John 5:39, with an allusion to Matt 7:7.
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Origen, Cels. 6.7 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/6/7/).
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Origen, Cels. 6.7 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/6/7/).
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