Against Celsus 5.27

Summary: If every nation's customs are right as Celsus says, then parricide, incest, human sacrifice, and animal worship would all be holy, and holiness would be mere convention, which is absurd.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:27–28

Πῶς δὲ καὶ κατὰ τίνας ἐπικρατείας διειλημμένα τὰ μέρη τῆς γῆς διοικεῖται ὑπὸ τῶν ἐποπτευόντων αὐτὰ, ὁ βουλόμενος διηγησάσθω· ἀπαγγειλάτω δὲ ἡμῖν καὶ πῶς ὀρθῶς πράττεται τὰ παρʼ ἑκάστοις δρώμενα, ὅπῃ τοῖς ἐπόπταις ἐστὶ φίλον, καὶ εἰ ὀρθῶς ἔχουσι φέρʼ εἰπεῖν οἱ Σκυθῶν περὶ ἀναιρέσεως πατέρων νόμοι ἢ οἱ Περσῶν, μὴ κωλύοντες γαμεῖσθαι τοῖς (οἰκείοις) παισὶ τὰς μητέρας μηδὲ ὑπὸ τῶν πατέρων τὰς ἑαυτῶν θυγατέρας. καὶ τί με δεῖ ἐπιλεγόμενον ἀπὸ τῶν πραγματευσαμένων περὶ τῶν ἐν τοῖς διαφόροις ἔθνεσι νόμων προσαπορεῖν, πῶς παρʼ ἑκάστοις ὀρθῶς πράττονται, καθὼς τοῖς ἐπόπταις φίλον, οἱ νόμοι; λεγέτω δʼ ἡμῖν ὁ Κέλσος, πῶς οὐχ ὅσιον παραλύειν νόμους πατρίους περὶ τοῦ γαμεῖν μητέρας καὶ θυγατέρας. ἢ περὶ τοῦ μακάριον εἶναι ἀγχόνῃ τὸν βίον ἐξελθεῖν, ἢ πάντως καθαίρεσθαι τοὺς ἑαυτοὺς παραδιδόντας τῷ πυρὶ καὶ τῇ διὰ πυρὸς ἀπαλλαγῇ τῇ ἀπὸ τοῦ βίου· καὶ πῶς οὐχ ὅσιον παραλύειν νόμους τοὺς φέρʼ εἰπεῖν παρὰ Ταύροις περὶ τοῦ ἱερεῖα τοὺς ξένους προσάγεσθαι τῇ Ἀρτέμιδι, ἢ παρὰ Λιβύων τισὶ περὶ τοῦ καταθύειν τὰ τέκνα τῷ Κρόνῳ. πλὴν ἀκολουθεῖ τῷ Κέλσῳ τὸ μὴ ὅσιον εἶναι Ἰουδαίοις παραλύειν νόμους πατρίους τοὺς περὶ τοῦ μὴ δεῖν ἄλλον τινὰ σέβειν θεὸν παρὰ τὸν τῶν ὅλων δημιουργόν. καὶ ἔσται κατʼ αὐτὸν οὐ φύσει τὸ ὅσιον ἀλλά τινι θέσει καὶ νομίσει θεῖον· ὅσιον γὰρ παρὰ τοῖσδε μὲν σέβειν κροκόδειλον καὶ ἐσθίειν τῶν παρʼ ἄλλοις τι προσκυνουμένων, καὶ ὅσιον ἑτέροις τὸ σέβειν τὸν μόσχον, καὶ παρʼ ἄλλοις τὸν τράγον νομίζειν θεόν. οὕτως δʼ ἔσται (ὁ) αὐτὸς ὅσια μὲν ποιῶν ὡς πρὸς τούσδε τοὺς νόμους, ἀνόσια δὲ ὡς πρὸς ἑτέρους· ὅπερ ἐστὶ πάντων ἀτοπώτατον.

English · Claude translation

Let anyone who wishes explain how, and according to what dominions, the parts of the earth are divided and administered by those who oversee them; and let him tell us also how the things done among each people are rightly done, in the way that pleases the overseers, and whether, for example, the laws of the Scythians about killing fathers are right, or those of the Persians, which do not forbid mothers to be married by their own sons nor daughters by their fathers. And why need I, selecting from those who have written about the laws among different nations, raise further difficulties about how the laws among each people are rightly practised as it pleases the overseers? Let Celsus tell us how it is unholy to abolish ancestral laws about marrying mothers and daughters, or about its being blessed to depart from life by hanging, or about those who give themselves up to the fire and to release from life by fire being wholly purified; and how it is unholy to abolish laws, for example, among the Taurians about offering strangers as sacrifices to Artemis, or among some of the Libyans about sacrificing children to Cronus. Yet it follows for Celsus that it is not holy for the Jews to abolish their ancestral laws about not worshipping any other God besides the Creator of the universe. And on his view holiness will be divine not by nature but by some convention and custom: for among some it is holy to revere the crocodile and to eat something that others worship; for others it is holy to revere the calf, and among others to consider the goat a god. So the same person will act holily with regard to these laws and unholily with regard to others; which is the most absurd of all.

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Source
Koetschau 2:27–28 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Extrabiblical texts
  • Herodotus, Hist. 4.103 (Herodotus, Histories) · allusion, medium confidence
Topics
Ethics

Notes

Translation notes

  • The parentheses (οἰκείοις) and (ὁ) are the editor's supplements. The Taurians' sacrifice of strangers to Artemis is told by Herodotus 4.103; Libyan (Carthaginian) child sacrifice to Cronus (Baal) was a common charge.

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Origen, Cels. 5.27 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5/27/).

Plain text
Origen, Cels. 5.27 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5/27/).

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