Against Celsus 3.67

Summary: Philosophy itself refutes Celsus: Phaedo, once forced into a brothel, became Plato's narrator of Socrates' death, and the drunken Polemo became head of Xenocrates' school.

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Greek text · Koetschau 1:259–260

Εἰκὸς δʼ αὐτὸν τοιοῦτον βούλεσθαι δηλοῦν, ὅτι τοὺς πρὸς τὰ τοιάδε ἁμαρτήματα καὶ γινόμενα ὑπὸ τῶν ἐξωλεστάτων οὐ μόνον πεφυκότας ἀλλὰ καὶ εἰθισμένους οὐδεὶς ἂν οὐδὲ κολάζων πάντῃ μεταβάλοι. καὶ τοῦτο δὲ ψεῦδος ἀπὸ τῆς περί τινων φιλοσοφησάντων ἱστορίας ἀποδείκνυται. τίς γὰρ ἀνθρώπων οὐκ ἂν ἐν τοῖς ἐξωλεστάτοις τάσσοι τὸν ὅπως ποτὲ ὑπομείναντα εἶξαι δεσπότῃ, ἐπὶ τέγους αὐτὸν ἱστάντι, ἵνα πάντα τὸν θέλοντα αὐτὸν καταισχύνειν παραδέξηται; τοιαῦτα δὲ περὶ τοῦ Φαίδωνος ἱστορεῖται. τίς δὲ τὸν μετὰ αὐλητρίδος καὶ κωμαστῶν τῶν συνασωτευσαμένων εἰσβαλόντα εἰς τὴν τοῦ σεμνοτάτου Ξενοκράτους διατριβὴν, ἵνʼ ἐνυβρίσῃ ἄνδρα, ὃν καὶ οἱ ἑταῖροι ἐθαύμαζον, οὐ φήσει πάντων μιαρώτατον εἶναι ἀνθρώπων; ἀλλʼ ὅμως ἴσχυσε λόγος καὶ τούτους ἐπιστρέψας ποιῆσαι ἐπὶ τοσοῦτον διαβεβηκέναι ἐν φιλοσοφίᾳ. ὥστε τὸν μὲν ὑπὸ Πλάτωνος κριθῆναι ἄξιον τοῦ τὸν περὶ τῆς ἀθανασίας διεξοδεῦσαι Σωκράτους λόγον καὶ τὴν ἐν τῷ δεσμωτηρίῳ εὐτονίαν αὐτοῦ παραστῆσαι, οὐ φροντίσαντος τοῦ κωνείου ἀλλʼ ἀδεῶς καὶ μετὰ πάσης γαλήνης τῆς ἐν τῇ ψυχῇ διεξοδεύσαντος τοσαῦτα καὶ τηλικαῦτα, οἷς μόγις παρακολουθεῖν καὶ οἱ πάνυ καθεστηκότες καὶ ὑπὸ μηδεμιᾶς ἐνοχλούμενοι περιστάσεως δύνανται· τὸν δὲ Πολέμωνα, ἐξ ἀσώτου γενόμενον σωφρονέστατον, διαδέξασθαι τὴν τοῦ διαβοήτου ἐπὶ σεμνότητι Ξενοκράτους διατριβήν. οὐκ ἄρα ἀληθεύει Κέλσος λέγων τοὺς πεφυκότας ἁμαρτάνειν καὶ εἰθισμένους οὐδεὶς ἂν οὐδὲ κολάζων πάντῃ μεταβάλοι.

English · Claude translation

It is likely that he means something like this: that no one could wholly change, not even by punishing them, those who are not only by nature inclined but also accustomed to sins such as the most abandoned commit. But this too is shown to be false from the history of certain men who became philosophers. For who would not rank among the most abandoned a man who somehow endured to yield to a master who set him in a brothel, so that he should receive anyone who wished to abuse him? Such things are related about Phaedo. And who will not say that the man who burst into the school of the most venerable Xenocrates with a flute-girl and a band of fellow revelers, to insult a man whom even his companions admired, was the most defiled of all men? Yet the word was strong enough to convert even these and make them advance so far in philosophy that the one was judged by Plato worthy to narrate Socrates' discourse on immortality and to portray his steadfastness in prison, as he paid no heed to the hemlock but fearlessly and with all calm of soul went through so many and such great arguments, which even the most settled people, troubled by no circumstance, can scarcely follow; and the other, Polemo, having become from a profligate a man of the greatest self-control, succeeded to the school of Xenocrates, famous for his dignity. So Celsus does not speak truly when he says that no one could wholly change those by nature inclined and accustomed to sin, not even by punishing them.

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Source
Koetschau 1:259–260 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Extrabiblical texts
  • Plato, Phaedo (Plato (works)) · allusion, high confidence
Topics
Ethics

Notes

Translation notes

  • Phaedo of Elis narrates Plato's Phaedo; Polemo succeeded Xenocrates as head of the Academy.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing accent in the digital text): οὐδεὶς αν οὐδὲ → οὐδεὶς ἂν οὐδὲ.

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Origen, Cels. 3.67 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/67/).

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Origen, Cels. 3.67 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/67/).

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