Against Celsus 3.55

Summary: Celsus caricatures Christian teachers as uneducated wool-workers, cobblers, and fullers who secretly lure children and women away from fathers and teachers.

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Greek text · Koetschau 1:250–251

Ἐπεὶ δʼ ἐνηδόμενος τῷ τῶν καθʼ ἡμῶν λοιδοριῶν λόγῳ προσέθηκε καὶ ἕτερα, φέρε καὶ ταῦτα ἐκθέμενοι ἴδωμεν, πότερον Χριστιανοὶ ἀσχημονοῦσιν ἢ Κέλσος ἐπὶ τοῖς λεγομένοις, ὅς φησιν· ὁρῶμεν δὴ καὶ κατὰ τὰς ἰδίας οἰκίας ἐριουργοὺς καὶ σκυτοτόμους καὶ κναφεῖς καὶ τοὺς ἀπαιδευτοτάτους τε καὶ ἀγροικοτάτους ἐναντίον μὲν τῶν πρεσβυτέρων καὶ φρονιμωτέρων δεσποτῶν οὐδὲν φθέγγεσθαι τολμῶντας, ἐπειδὰν δὲ τῶν παίδων αὐτῶν ἰδίᾳ λάβωνται καὶ γυναίων τινῶν σὺν αὐτοῖς ἀνοήτων, θαυμάσιʼ ἄττα διεξιόντας, ὡς οὐ χρὴ προσέχειν τῷ πατρὶ καὶ τοῖς διδασκάλοις σφίσι δὲ πείθεσθαι· (καὶ) τοὺς μέν γε ληρεῖν καὶ ἀποπλήκτους εἶναι καὶ μηδὲν τῷ ὄντι καλὸν μήτʼ εἰδέναι μήτε δύνασθαι ποιεῖν, ὕθλοις κενοῖς προκατειλημμένους, σφᾶς δὲ μόνους ὅπως δεῖ ζῆν ἐπίστασθαι, καὶ ἂν αὐτοῖς οἱ παῖδες πείθωνται, μακαρίους αὐτοὺς ἔσεσθαι καὶ τὸν οἶκον ἀποφαίνειν εὐδαίμονα· καὶ ἅμα λέγοντες ἐὰν ἴδωσί τινα παριόντα τῶν παιδείας διδασκάλων καὶ φρονιμωτέρων ἢ καὶ αὐτὸν τὸν πατέρα. οἱ μὲν εὐλαβέστεροι αὐτῶν διέτρεσαν, οἱ δʼ ἰταμώτεροι τοὺς παῖδας ἀφηνιάζειν ἐπαίρουσι, τοιαῦτα ψιθυρίζοντες, ὡς παρόντος μὲν τοῦ πατρὸς καὶ τῶν διδασκάλων οὐδὲν αὐτοὶ ἐθελήσουσιν οὐδὲ δυνήσονται τοῖς παισὶν ἑρμηνεύειν ἀγαθὸν, ἐκτρέπεσθαι γὰρ τὴν ἐκείνων ἀβελτηρίαν καὶ σκαιότητα, πάντῃ διεφθαρμένων καὶ πόῤῥω κακίας ἡκόντων καὶ σφᾶς κολαζόντων· εἰ δὲ θέλοιεν. χρῆναι αὐτοὺς ἀφεμένους τοῦ πατρός τε καὶ τῶν διδασκάλων ἰέναι σὺν τοῖς γυναίοις καὶ τοῖς συμπαίζουσι παιδαρίοις εἰς τὴν γυναικωνῖτιν ἢ τὸ σκυτεῖον ἢ τὸ κναφεῖον, ἵνα τὸ τέλειον λάβωσι· καὶ ταῦτα λέγοντες πείθουσιν.

English · Claude translation

But since, delighting in his discourse of abuse against us, he has added other things too, come, let us set these out also and see whether Christians behave disgracefully or Celsus in what he says. He says: “We see also in private houses wool-workers, cobblers, fullers, and the most uneducated and boorish people, who do not dare to utter a word in front of their elders and more sensible masters; but when they get hold of the children privately, and some foolish women with them, they tell marvelous things: that they must not pay attention to their father and their teachers but must obey them; that those others talk nonsense and are senseless, and neither know nor can do anything truly good, being preoccupied with empty chatter; but that they alone know how one ought to live, and if the children obey them they will be happy and will make the household prosperous. And while they are speaking, if they see one of the schoolteachers coming by, or one of the more sensible people, or even the father himself, the more cautious of them run off in fright, but the bolder urge the children to break loose, whispering such things as that while the father and the teachers are present they will not want, nor be able, to explain anything good to the children, since they turn away from their stupidity and coarseness, who are utterly corrupt and far gone in wickedness and would punish them; but if they wish, they must leave their father and their teachers and go with the women and their little playmates into the women's quarters, or the cobbler's shop, or the fuller's shop, so that they may receive perfection. And by saying these things they persuade them.”

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Source
Koetschau 1:250–251 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)

Notes

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  • The whole section is a quotation of Celsus.

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Origen, Cels. 3.55 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/55/).

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Origen, Cels. 3.55 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/3/55/).

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