Sophia Scriptura

Octavius 33.4

Minucius Felix · Octavius · ca. 197–250 · Rome · Read in context

Summary: Jewish and Roman writers show that the Jews' fall was foretold for their disobedience.

Textual problem in this passage: the printed text is uncertain or disputed here. See the notes.

Latin text · CSEL 2:47–48

scripta eorum relege, uel si Romanis magis gaudes, ut transeamus ueteres, [Flaui Josephi uel] Antonii Iuliani de Iudaeis require: iam scies, nequitia sua hanc eos meruisse fortunam, nec quidquam accidisse quod non sit iis, si in contumacia perseuerarent, ante praedictum.

English · Claude translation

Read their writings again, or, if you prefer Romans, to pass over the ancients, look up what Antonius Julianus wrote about the Jews: you will know at once that they deserved this fortune by their own wickedness, and that nothing happened to them that had not been foretold before, if they persisted in their stubbornness.

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Source
CSEL 2:47–48 · Karl Halm, ed., M. Minucii Felicis Octavius; Iulii Firmici Materni Liber de errore profanarum religionum, CSEL 2 (Vienna: Gerold, 1867), 1–56 · Latin text: K. Halm (CSEL 2, 1867), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in CSEL 2. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; the problem in this passage is discussed in the notes.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 2; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Divided there by chapter only.
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Notes

Translation notes

  • The editor deletes "Flaui Josephi uel" ("of Flavius Josephus or") as a later addition; it is not translated. Antonius Julianus's work on the Jews is lost. The statement is Octavius's own view of Jewish history, given as written.

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Minucius Felix, Oct. 33.4 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/33/4/).

Plain text
Minucius Felix, Oct. 33.4 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/33/4/).

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