Octavius 11.7 · Sophia Scriptura

Summary: Caecilius asks what kind of body could rise again.

Latin text · CSEL 2:15–16

igitur iniquum iudicem fingitis qui sortem in hominibus puniat, non uoluntatem. uellem tamen sciscitari, utrumne cum corporibus an sine corporibus, et corporibus quibus, ipsisne an innouatis resurgatur? sine corpore? hoc, quod sciam, neque mens neque anima nec uita est. ipso corpore? sed iam ante dilapsum est. alio corpore? ergo homo nouus nascitur, non prior ille reparatur.

English · Claude translation

So you imagine an unjust judge, who punishes in men their lot, not their will. Yet I should like to ask whether the resurrection is with bodies or without bodies, and with which bodies, the same ones or renewed ones. Without a body? That, as far as I know, is neither mind nor soul nor life. With the same body? But it has already fallen to pieces. With another body? Then a new man is born, not the former one restored.

About this passage

Source

CSEL 2:15–16 · Karl Halm, ed., M. Minucii Felicis Octavius; Iulii Firmici Materni Liber de errore profanarum religionum, CSEL 2 (Vienna: Gerold, 1867), 1–56 · Latin text: K. Halm (CSEL 2, 1867), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0

Text

As printed in CSEL 2. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.

Translation

Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 2; made independently of existing English translations.

Compare

Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Divided there by chapter only.

Topics

Eschatology

Cite this passage

Minucius Felix, Oct. 11.7 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/11/7/).

Plain text

Minucius Felix, Oct. 11.7 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/11/7/).