On the Immortality of the Soul 1–10
Latin text: Migne, PL 32 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 1
1PL 32:1022
Si alicubi est disciplina, nec esse nisi in eo quod vivit potest, et semper est, neque quidquam in quo quid semper est potest esse non semper; semper vi vit in quo est disciplina. Si nos sumus qui ratiocina mur, id est animus noster, nec recte ratiocinari sine disciplina potest, nec sine disciplina esse animus, nisi in quo disciplina non est, potest; est in hominis ani mo disciplina. Est autem alicubi disciplina: nam est, et quidquid est nusquam esse non potest. Item disci plina non potest esse, nisi in eo quod vivit. Nihil enim quod non vivit, aliquid discit; nec esse in eo quod nihil discit, disciplina potest. Item semper est disciplina. Nam quod est atque immutabile est, semper sit necesse est. Esse autem disciplinam, nemo negat. Et quisquis fatetur fieri non posse, ut ducta per medium circulum linea non sit omnium, quæ non per medium ducuntur maxima, idque esse alicujus disciplinae; immutabilem disciplinam esse non negat. Item nihil in quo quid semper est, potest esse non semper. Nihil enim quod semper est, patitur sibi subtrahi aliquando id in quo semper est. Jamvero cum ratiocinamur, animus id agit. Non enim id agit, nisi qui intelligit: nec corpus intelligit, nec animus auxi liante corpore intelligit; quia cum intelligere vult, a corpore avertitur. Quod enim intelligitur, ejusmodi est semper; nihilque corporis ejusmodi est sem per: non igitur potest adjuvare animum ad intelle ctum nitentem, cui non impedire satis est. Item nemo sine disciplina recte ratiocinatur. Est enim recta ra tiocinatio a certis ad incertorum indagationem nitens cogitatio: nihilque certum est in animo quod igno rat. Omne autem quod scit animus, in sese habet; nec ullam rem scientia complectitur, nisi quæ ad ali quam pertineat disciplinam. Est enim disciplina quarumcumque rerum scientia. Semper igitur animus humanus vivit.
If knowledge exists somewhere, and can exist only in what lives, and always exists, and nothing in which something always exists can itself not always exist, then that in which knowledge exists always lives. If we are the ones who reason, that is, our mind, and our mind cannot reason rightly without knowledge, and a mind cannot be without knowledge except one in which knowledge does not exist, then knowledge exists in the mind of man. Now knowledge exists somewhere: for it exists, and whatever exists cannot exist nowhere. Again, knowledge cannot exist except in what lives. For nothing that does not live learns anything; and knowledge cannot exist in what learns nothing. Again, knowledge always exists. For what exists and is unchangeable must always exist. And no one denies that knowledge exists. And whoever admits that it cannot be that a line drawn through the center of a circle is not the longest of all lines that are not drawn through the center, and that this belongs to some branch of knowledge, does not deny that knowledge is unchangeable. Again, nothing in which something always exists can itself not always exist. For nothing that always exists allows that in which it always exists to be taken from it at any time. Now when we reason, it is the mind that does it. For only that which understands does it; and the body does not understand, nor does the mind understand with the body's help, since when it wants to understand, it turns away from the body. For what is understood is always of the same kind, and nothing of the body is always of the same kind; so the body cannot help the mind as it strives to understand; it is enough if it does not hinder it. Again, no one reasons rightly without knowledge. For right reasoning is thought striving from certain things to the investigation of uncertain ones; and nothing is certain in a mind that does not know it. Now all that the mind knows it has within itself; and knowledge embraces nothing except what belongs to some branch of knowledge. For knowledge is the knowing of any things whatever. Therefore the human mind always lives.
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine argues that since knowledge is unchangeable and eternal, can exist only in what lives, and exists in the human mind, the mind must always live.
- “Knowledge” renders “disciplina” (a body of knowledge, a branch of learning), as the argument requires.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; joined words; leaked footnote digit; stray mark): alienjus → alicujus; ncgat → negat; quod. semper → quod semper; intelligitur1, → intelligitur,; nibilque → nihilque; satis est.Item → satis est. Item; cogitatio2: → cogitatio:.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 1 (PL 32:1022; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 2
2PL 32:1022
Ratio profecto aut animus est, aut in animo. Melior autem ratio nostra, quam corpus nostrum: et corpus nostrum nonnulla substantia est, et melius est esse substantiam, quam nihil: non est igitur ratio nihil. Rursum, quæcumque harmonia corporis est, in subjecto corpore sit necesse est inseparabiliter, nec aliud quidquam in illa harmonia esse credatur, quod non æque necessario sit in subjecto illo corpore, in quo et ipsa harmonia non minus inseparabiliter. Mutabile est autem corpus humanum, et immutabilis ra tio. Mutabile est enim omne quod semper eodem modo non est. Et semper eodem modo est, Duo et quatuor, sex Item semper eodem modo est quod est, quod quatuor habent duo et duo; hoc autem non habent duo: duo igitur quatuor non sunt. Est autem ista ra tio immutabilis: igitur ratio est. Nullo modo autem potest, mutato subjecto, id quod in eo est inseparabi liter non mutari. Non est igitur harmonia corporis animus. Nec mors potest accidere immutabilibus re bus. Semper ergo animus vivit, sive ipse ratio sit, sive in eo ratio inseparabiliter.
Reason certainly either is the mind or is in the mind. Now our reason is better than our body; and our body is some substance, and it is better to be a substance than nothing; so reason is not nothing. Again, whatever harmony of the body there is must exist inseparably in the body as its subject, and nothing should be believed to be in that harmony which is not equally of necessity in that subject body, in which the harmony itself is no less inseparably. But the human body is changeable, and reason is unchangeable. For everything that does not always exist in the same way is changeable. And it is always the same that two and four are six. Again, it is always the same that four contains two and two, while two does not contain this; so two is not four. And this reasoning is unchangeable; so reason exists. But in no way can what is inseparably in a subject not be changed when the subject is changed. So the mind is not the harmony of the body. Nor can death befall unchangeable things. So the mind always lives, whether it is itself reason or reason is inseparably in it.
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Summary: Reason, being unchangeable, cannot be a harmony of the changeable body; so the mind, which is reason or contains it inseparably, always lives.
- The view that the soul is a harmony of the body is the one discussed in Plato's Phaedo. The arithmetical examples are garbled in the digital text (“Et semper eodem modo est, Duo et quatuor, sex Item …”) and are translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): ot melius → et melius; niliil → nihil; Mu- Labile → Mutabile; eodem modo cst quod → eodem modo est quod; animus Nee mors → animus. Nec mors.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Phaed. 85e–86d (Plato (works); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 2 (PL 32:1022; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 3
3PL 32:1022–1023
Quaedam constantiæ virtus est, et omnis con stantia immutabilis est, et omnis virtus potest aliquid agere, nec cum agit aliquid, virtus non est. Omnis porro actio movetur, aut movet. Aut igitur non omne quod movetur, aut certe non omne quod movet, mu tabile est. At omne quod ab alio movetur, nec movet ipsum, aliquid mortale est. Neque mortale quidquam immutabile. Quare de certo jam et sine ulla disjun ctione concluditur, non omne quod movet mutari. Nullus autem motus sine substantia: et omnis sub stantia aut vivit, aut non vivit: atque omne quod non vivit, exanime est; nec est ulla exanimis actio. Illud igitur quod ita movet ut non mutetur, non potest esse nisi viva substantia. Hæc autem omnis per quoslibet gradus corpus movet. Non igitur omne quod corpus movet, mutabile est. Corpus autem non nisi secundum tempus movetur: ad hoc enim pertinet tardius et ce lerius moveri: conficitur esse quiddam quod tempore moveat, nec tamen mutetur. Omne autem quod tem pore movet corpus, tametsi ad unum finem tendat, tamen nec simul potest omnia facere, nec potest non plura facere: neque enim valet quavis ope agatur, aut perfecte unum esse, quod in partes secari potest, aut ullum est sine partibus corpus, aut sine morarum in tervallo tempus, aut vero vel brevissima syllaba enun tietur, cujus non tunc finem audias, cum jam non audis initium. Porro quod sic agitur, et exspectatione opus est ut peragi, et memoria ut comprehendi queat quantum potest. Et exspectatio futurarum rerum est, præteritarum vero memoria. At intentio ad agendum præsentis est temporis, per quod futurum in præteri tum transit, nec coepti motus corporis exspectari finis potest sine ulla memoria. Quomodo enim exspectatur ut desinat, quod aut coepisse excidit, aut omnino mo tum esse? Rursus intentio peragendi quae præsens est, sine exspectatione finis qui futurus est, non potest esse: nec est quidquam quod aut nondum est, aut jam non est. Potest igitur in agendo quiddam esse, quod ad ea quæ nondum sunt pertineat. Possunt si mul in agente plura esse, cum ea plura quæ aguntur simul esse non possint. Possunt ergo etiam in mo vente, cum in eo quod movetur non possint. At quae cumque in tempore simul esse non possunt, et tamen a futuro in præteritum transmittuntur, mutabilia sint necesse est. Hinc jam colligimus, posse esse quiddam quod cum movet mutabilia, non mutatur. Cum enim non mutatur moventis intentio perducendi ad finem quem volet corpus quod movet, illudque corpus de quo ali quid fit eodem motu per momenta mutetur, atque illa intentio perficiendi quam immutatam manere mani festum est, et ipsa membra artificis, et lignum aut lapidem artifici subjectum moveat, quis dubitet con sequens esse quod dictum est? Non igitur si qua mu tatio corporum movente animo fit, quamvis in eam sit intentus, hinc eum necessario mutari, et ob hoc etiam mori arbitrandum est. Potest enim in hac in tentione simul et memoriam praeteritorum et exspectationem futurorum habere, quæ omnia sine vita esse non possunt. Quanquam etsi nullus interitus sine mutatione sit, et nulla mutatio sine motu; non tamen omnis mutatio interitum, omnisque motus mutatio nem operatur. Licet enim ipsum corpus nostrum, et motum plerumque qualibet actione, et mutatum certe vel ætate dicere, tamen nondum interisse, id est non esse sine vita. Liceat igitur et animum non continuo putare privari vita, quanquam ei fortasse per motum mutatio nonnulla contingat.
There is a certain virtue of constancy, and all constancy is unchangeable; and every virtue can do something, and it is not the case that when it does something it is not a virtue. Further, every action either is moved or moves. So either not everything that is moved, or certainly not everything that moves, is changeable. But everything that is moved by another and does not move itself is something mortal. And nothing mortal is unchangeable. Therefore it is now concluded with certainty and without any alternative that not everything that moves is changed. But there is no motion without substance; and every substance either lives or does not live; and everything that does not live is lifeless; and there is no action of a lifeless thing. So that which moves without being changed can only be a living substance. And every such substance, through whatever degrees, moves the body. So not everything that moves a body is changeable. But a body is moved only in time; for to this belongs being moved more slowly and more quickly. It follows that there is something that moves in time and yet is not changed. Now everything that moves a body in time, though it tends to one end, can neither do everything at once nor avoid doing many things. For it is not possible, by whatever power it is done, either that what can be divided into parts should be perfectly one, or that there should be any body without parts, or time without intervals of duration, or that even the shortest syllable should be pronounced of which you do not hear the end when you no longer hear the beginning. Further, what is done in this way needs expectation in order to be completed, and memory in order to be grasped as far as possible. And expectation is of things future, memory of things past. But the intention to act belongs to the present time, through which the future passes into the past; nor can the end of a bodily motion once begun be expected without some memory. For how is the end of something expected, when it has slipped from the mind that it began, or that it was moved at all? Again, the present intention to complete cannot exist without expectation of the end, which is future; nor is there anything that either does not yet exist or no longer exists. So there can be in the one who acts something that pertains to the things that do not yet exist. Many things can be in the agent at once, though the many things that are done cannot exist at once. So they can be in the mover, though they cannot be in what is moved. But whatever things cannot exist at once in time, and yet pass from future into past, must be changeable. From this we now gather that there can be something which, while it moves changeable things, is not changed. For when the intention of the mover to bring the body he moves to the end he wills is not changed, while the body on which something is made is changed moment by moment by that same motion, and that intention to complete, which clearly remains unchanged, moves both the very limbs of the craftsman and the wood or stone subject to the craftsman, who would doubt that what has been said follows? So if some change of bodies takes place when the mind moves them, even though the mind is intent on that change, it is not to be thought that the mind is therefore necessarily changed, and for that reason also dies. For in this intention it can have at once both memory of things past and expectation of things future, none of which can exist without life. And though there is no perishing without change, and no change without motion, still not every change brings about perishing, nor every motion change. For we may say that our body itself is often moved by some action, and certainly changed at least by age, and yet has not yet perished, that is, is not without life. Let us be permitted, then, to think that the mind too is not straightway deprived of life, even though some change may perhaps happen to it through motion.
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine argues that the mind can move bodies in time without itself being changed, since its intention, memory, and expectation hold together what passes, and that even if it undergoes some change, change is not the same as perishing.
- The printed text reads “nec cum agit aliquid, virtus non est”; the Louvain edition reads “cum non agit” (“nor does it cease to be a virtue when it is not acting”), which gives the clearer sense. The printed text is translated.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and repeated syllables; OCR slips; stray mark): aliquid I, → aliquid,; jani et sino → jam et sine; movct mutari → movet mutari; vivii → vivit; mutclur, ncn → mutetur, non; antem omnis → autem omnis; corpus movct. Non → corpus movet. Non; secundam tempus movctur: ad hoc cnim → secundum tempus movetur: ad hoc enim; agatur, ant perfecte → agatur, aut perfecte; ct exspectatione opus cst ut pcragi, et mcmoria → et exspectatione opus est ut peragi, et memoria; nondum sont → nondum sunt; Possant si → Possunt si; necosse → necesse; volct corpus → volet corpus; quan. immutatam → quam immutatam; artilici → artifici; hinc cum necessario → hinc eum necessario; prjeteritorum et exspe-.clationem ctationem futurorum → praeteritorum et exspectationem futurorum; tamrn → tamen; ct mutatum → et mutatum; non osse sine → non esse sine.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 3 (PL 32:1022–1023; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 4
4PL 32:1023
Si enim manet aliquid immutabile in animo, quod sine vita esse non possit; animo etiam vita sem piterna maneat necesse est. Nam hoc prorsus ita se habet, ut si primum est, sit secundum. Est autem primum. Quis enim, ut alia omittam, aut rationem numerorum mutabilem esse audeat dicere, aut artem quamlibet non ista ratione constare; aut artem non esse in artifice, etiam cum eam non exercet; aut ejus esse, nisi in animo; aut ubi vita non sit, esse posse; aut quod immutabile est, esse aliquando non posse; aut aliud esse artem, aliud rationem? Quamvis enim ars una multarum quasi quidam coetus rationum esse dicatur, tamen ars etiam una ratio dici verissime at que intelligi potest. Sed sive hoc, sive illud sit, non minus immutabilem artem esse conficitur: artem autem non solum esse in animo artificis, sed etiam nusquam esse nisi in animo manifestum est, idque inseparabiliter. Nam si ars ab animo separabitur; aut erit præterquam in animo, aut nusquam erit, aut de animo in animum continuo transibit. At ut sedes arti nulla sine vita est, ita nec vita cum ratione ulli nisi animae. Nusquam porro esse quod est, vel quod immutabile est non esse aliquando non potest. Si vero ars de animo in animum transit, in illo mansura de serens istam; nemo artem docet nisi amittendo, aut etiam non nisi docentis oblivione fit aliquis peritus, sive morte. Quæ si absurdissima et falsissima sunt, sicuti sunt, immortalis est animus humanus. At enim si ars aliquando est, aliquando non est in animo, quod per oblivionem atque imperitiam satis notum est; nihil ad ejus immortalitatem affert argu menti hujus connexio, nisi negetur antecedens hoc modo. Aut est aliquid in animo, quod in praesenti cogitatione non est; aut non est in erudito animo ars musica, cum de sola geometrica cogitat: hoc autem falsum est; illud igitur verum. Non autem quidquam se habere animus sentit, nisi quod in cogitationem venerit. Potest igitur aliquid esse in animo, quod esse in se animus ipse non sentiat. Id autem quamdiu sit; nihil interest. Namque si diutius fuerit in aliis animus occupatus, quam ut intentionem suam in ante cogitata facile possit reflectere, oblivio vel imperitia nomina tur. Sed cum vel nos ipsi nobiscum ratiocinantes, vel ab alio bene interrogati de quibusdam liberalibus ar tibus ea quae invenimus, non alibi quam in animo no stro invenimus: neque id est invenire, quod facere aut gignere; alioquin æterna gigneret animus inven tione temporali (nam aeterna saepe invenit; quid enim tam aeternum quam circuli ratio, vel si quid aliud in hujuscemodi artibus, nec non fuisse ali quando, nec non fore comprehenditur?): manifestum etiam est, immortalem esse animum humanum, et omnes veras rationes in secretis ejus esse, quamvis eas sive ignoratione sive oblivione, aut non habere, aut amisisse videatur.
For if something unchangeable remains in the mind which cannot exist without life, eternal life too must remain in the mind. For the matter stands exactly thus: if the first is so, the second is so. And the first is so. For who would dare to say, to pass over other things, either that the principle of numbers is changeable, or that every art does not rest on such a principle; or that an art is not in the craftsman even when he is not exercising it; or that it belongs to anything but the mind; or that it can exist where there is no life; or that what is unchangeable can at some time not exist; or that art is one thing and a principle (ratio) another? For although one art is said to be, as it were, a gathering of many principles, still an art can most truly be called and understood as one principle. But whether it is this or that, it follows no less that art is unchangeable; and it is clear that art not only is in the mind of the craftsman but also is nowhere except in the mind, and that inseparably. For if art is separated from the mind, it will either exist elsewhere than in the mind, or exist nowhere, or pass continually from mind to mind. But as there is no seat for art without life, so there is no life with reason except in a soul. Further, what exists cannot exist nowhere, and what is unchangeable cannot at some time not exist. And if art passes from mind to mind, leaving this one to remain in that, no one teaches an art except by losing it, or else no one becomes skilled except by the forgetting, or the death, of his teacher. If these things are most absurd and most false, as they are, the human mind is immortal. But if art is sometimes in the mind and sometimes not, which is well enough known from forgetting and lack of skill, the connection in this argument brings nothing toward its immortality, unless the antecedent is denied in this way. Either there is something in the mind which is not in present thought, or the art of music is not in a learned mind when it is thinking only of geometry. But the latter is false; so the former is true. Now the mind is aware of having nothing except what has come into thought. So there can be something in the mind which the mind itself is not aware is in it. How long this lasts makes no difference. For if the mind has been occupied with other things too long to be able easily to turn its attention back to what it thought before, it is called forgetting or lack of skill. But when, either reasoning with ourselves or well questioned by another about certain liberal arts, we find the things we find nowhere else than in our mind; and since to find is not the same as to make or beget (otherwise the mind would beget eternal things by a temporal finding, for it often finds eternal things; for what is so eternal as the principle of the circle, or whatever else in arts of this kind is understood neither to have not existed at some time nor to be going to not exist?): it is clear also that the human mind is immortal, and that all true principles are in its hidden places, although it may seem, through ignorance or forgetting, either not to have them or to have lost them.
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Summary: Since the unchangeable principles of the arts exist inseparably in the mind and cannot be lost, transferred, or begotten by it, but are found within it, the human mind is immortal.
- “Principle” renders “ratio” in the sense of an intelligible pattern or idea. The argument that learning is finding what is already in the mind's hidden places recalls Plato's doctrine of recollection (Meno 81e–86b), which Augustine later qualified (Retract. 1.5.2).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; leaked footnote digit; lost parenthesis; stray mark): rationcm → rationem; eliam una → etiam una; innnutabile → immutabile; aut euam Hon nisi → aut etiam non nisi; sive morte1. → sive morte.; aliquaudo → aliquando; anteccdens → antecedens; co* gitatione → cogitatione; non est in. erudito → non est in erudito; facilc → facile; qnod facere → quod facere; temporali nam aeterna → temporali (nam aeterna; comprebenditur → comprehenditur; eliam est, immortalem → etiam est, immortalem; quam,:. eas → quamvis eas; non habers → non habere.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Meno 81e–86b (Plato (works); echo)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 4 (PL 32:1023; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 5
5PL 32:1023–1025
Nunc autem quatenus accipienda sit animi mu tatio videamus. Si enim subjectum est animus arte in subjecto existente, neque subjectum immutari potest quin et id quod in subjecto est immutetur; qui possumus obtinere immutabilem esse artem atque ratio nem, si mutabilis animus in quo illa sunt esse convin citur? Qune autem major quam in contraria solet esse mutatio? et quis negat animum, ut omittam caetera, stultum alias, alias vero esse sapientem? Prius ergo quot modis accipiatur, quae dicitur animae mutatio, videamus; qui, ut opinor, manifestiores duntaxat clarioresque nobis duo sunt genere, specie vero plures inveniuntur. Namque aut secundum corporis passio nes, aut secundum suas, anima dicitur immutari. Se cundum corporis, ut per aetates, per morbos, per do lores, labores, offensiones, per voluptates. Secundum suas autem, ut cupiendo, lætando, metuendo, ægre scendo, studendo, discendo. Hæ omnes mutationes, si non necessario argu mento sunt mori animam, nihil quidem metuendæ sunt per se ipsae separatim: sed ne rationi nostrae adversentur, qua dictum est, mutato subjecto omne quod in subjecto est necessario mutari, videndum est. Sed non adversantur. Nam illud secundum hanc mutationem subjecti dicitur, per quam omnino mutare cogitur nomen. Nam si ex albo cera nigrum colorem ducat alicunde, non minus cera est; et si ex quadrata rotundam formam sumat, et ex molli durescat, fri gescatque ex calida: at ista in subjecto sunt, et cera subjectum. Manet autem cera non magis minusve cera, cum illa mutentur. Potest igitur aliqua mutatio fieri eorum quæ in subjecto sunt, cum ipsum tamen juxta id quod hoc est ac dicitur, non mutetur. At si eorum quoe in subjecto sunt, tanta commutatio fieret, ut illud quod subesse dicebatur, dici jam omnino non posset; veluti cum calore ignis cera in auras discedit, eamque mutationem patitur ut recte intelligatur mu tatum esse subjectum, quod cera erat, et cera jam non est: nullo modo aliqua ratione quidquam eorum, quoe in illo subjecto ideo erant quia hoc erat, remanere putaretur. Quamobrem si anima subjectum est, ut supra diximus, in quo ratio inseparabiliter, ea necessitate quoque qua in subjecto esse monstratur, nec nisi viva anima potest esse anima, nec in ea ratio potest esse sine vita, et immortalis est ratio; immortalis est anima. Prorsus enim nullo pacto non existente subjecto suo immutabilis ratio permaneret. Quod eveniret, si tanta accideret animæ mutatio, ut eam non animam faceret, id est mori cogeret. Nulla autem illarum mutationum, quae sive per corpus, sive per ipsam animam fiunt (quamvis utrum aliquæ per ipsam fiant, id est quarum ipsa sit causa, non parva sit quæstio), id agit ut animam non animam faciat. Jam igitur non solum per se, verum nec nostris rationibus formidandæ sunt.
Now let us see how far a change of the mind is to be admitted. For if the mind is a subject, with art existing in it as in a subject, and a subject cannot be changed without what is in the subject being changed too, how can we maintain that art and reason are unchangeable, if the mind in which they are is shown to be changeable? And what greater change is there than into contraries? And who denies that the mind, to pass over other things, is foolish at one time and wise at another? First, then, let us see in how many ways what is called a change of the soul is taken. These, I think, are clearer and plainer to us only as two in genus, but more are found in species. For the soul is said to be changed either according to the affections of the body or according to its own. According to those of the body, as through ages, diseases, pains, labors, injuries, pleasures. According to its own, as by desiring, rejoicing, fearing, grieving, studying, learning. All these changes, if they are not a necessary proof that the soul dies, are not at all to be feared in themselves taken separately; but we must see that they do not contradict our reasoning, in which it was said that when the subject is changed, everything in the subject is necessarily changed. But they do not contradict it. For that was said of the kind of change of the subject by which it is compelled to change its name altogether. For if wax takes a black color from somewhere in place of white, it is no less wax; and so if it takes a round shape in place of a square, and hardens from soft, and grows cold from hot: these are in the subject, and the wax is the subject. And the wax remains no more and no less wax when these things are changed. So some change can take place in the things that are in a subject, while the subject itself, according to what it is and is called, is not changed. But if so great a change took place in the things that are in a subject that what was said to underlie them could no longer be so called at all, as when wax vanishes into the air through the heat of fire, and undergoes such a change that the subject is rightly understood to have been changed, since it was wax and is no longer wax, then in no way would anything of the things that were in that subject because it was this be thought to remain. Therefore, if the soul is a subject, as we said above, in which reason is inseparably, by the same necessity by which it is shown to be in the subject, and the soul cannot be a soul unless it is living, and reason cannot be in it without life, and reason is immortal, then the soul is immortal. For in no way would unchangeable reason remain if its subject did not exist. That would happen if so great a change befell the soul that it made it not a soul, that is, forced it to die. But none of those changes which take place either through the body or through the soul itself (although whether any take place through the soul itself, that is, of which it is itself the cause, is no small question) brings it about that the soul is not a soul. So they are now to be feared neither in themselves nor for our arguments.
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Summary: The changes the soul undergoes, through the body or its own affections, are like changes of color or shape in wax: they do not destroy the subject, and so do not threaten the soul in which unchangeable reason resides.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; leaked footnote digit; lost parenthesis; stray mark): immulabilcm → immutabilem; suut → sunt; mutatio' et quis → mutatio? et quis; qnot modis → quot modis; autcm, ut cupiendo → autem, ut cupiendo; animam., nihil → animam, nihil; ct ex molli → et ex molli; f.eri corum → fieri eorum; ipsum tamcn → ipsum tamen; boc est ac dicitur → hoc est ac dicitur; omniuo → omnino; mutationcm → mutationem; cera crat → cera erat; si:ruma subjectum → si anima subjectum; monstratur1, → monstratur,; immorlalis → immortalis; quan sive per corpus → quae sive per corpus; fiunt quamvis utrum → fiunt (quamvis utrum; ). id agit → ), id agit.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 5 (PL 32:1023–1025; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 6
6PL 32:1025–1027
Ergo incumbendum omnibus ratiocinandi viri bus video, ut ratio quid sit, et quoties definiri possit sciatur, ut secundum omnes modos et de animae im mortalitate constet. Ratio est aspectus animi, quo per seipsum, non per corpus verum intuetur: aut ipsa veri contemplatio, non per corpus; aut ipsum verum quod contemplatur. Primum illud in animo esse nemo ambigit: de secundo et tertio quæri potest; sed et secundum sine animo esse non potest. De tertio magna quaestio est, utrum verum illud quod sine in strumento corporis animus intuetur sit per seipsum, et non sit in animo, aut possit esse sine animo. Quo quolibet modo autem se babeat, non id posset contem plari animus per seipsum, nisi aliqua conjunctione cum eo. Nam omne quod contemplamur, sive cogita tione capimus, aut sensu aut intellectu capimus. Sed ea quae sensu capiuntur, extra etiam nos esse sentiun tur, et locis continentur, unde nec percipi quidem posse affirmantur. Ea vero quæ intelliguntur, non quasi alibi posita intelliguntur, quam ipse qui intelli git animus: simul enim etiam intelliguntur non con tineri loco. Quare ista conjunctio intuentis animi, et ejus veri quod intuetur, aut ita est ut subjectum sit animus, verum autem illud in subjecto; aut contra sub jectum verum, et in subjecto animus; aut utrumque substantia. Horum autem trium si primum est, tam est immortalis animus quam ratio, secundum superio rem disputationem quod inesse illa nisi vivo non pot est. Eadem necessitas in secundo est. Nam si verum illud quod ratio dicitur, nihil habet commutabile sicut apparet; nihil commutari potest quod in eo tanquam in subjecto est. Remanet igitur omnis pugna de tertio. Nam si animus substantia est, et substantia ratio cui conjungitur; non absurde quis putaverit fieri posse, ut manente illa hic esse desinat. Sed manifestum est quamdiu animus a ratione non separatur eique cohæ ret, necessario eum manere atque vivere. Separari autem qua tandem vi potest? Num corporea, cujus et potentia infirmior, et origo inferior, et ordo separa tior? Nullo modo. Animali ergo? Sed eliim in quo modo? An alter animus potentior quisquis est, con templari rationem non potest, nisi alterum inde sepa raverit? At neque ratio cuiquam contemplanti defue rit, si omnes contemplentur: et cum nihil sit ipsa ratione potentius, qua nihil est incommutabilius; nullo pacto erit animus nondum rationi conjunctus, eo qui est conjunctus potentior. Restat ut aut ipsa ratio a se ipsam separet, aut ipse animus ab ea voluntate sepa retur. Sed nihil est in illa natura invidentiae, quomi nus fruendam se animo praebeat. Deinde quo magis est, eo quidquid sibi conjungitur facit ut sit, cui rei contrarius est interitus. Voluntate autem animum se parari a ratione non nimis absurde quis diceret, si ulla ab invicem separatio posset esse rerum quas non con tinet locus. Quod quidem dici adversus omnia su periora potest, quibus alias contradictiones opposui mus. Quid ergo? Jamne concludendum est, animum esse immortalem? an etiamsi separari non potest, exstingui potest? At si illa rationis vis ipsa sua conjun ctione afficit animum; neque enim non afficere pot est; ita profecto afficit ut ei esse, tribuat. Est enim maxime ipsa ratio, ubi summa etiam incommutabili tas intelligitur. Itaque eum quem ex se afficit, cogit esse quodammodo. Non ergo exstingui animus potest, nisi a ratione separatus; separari autem non pot est, ut supra ratiocinati sumus: non potest igitur interire.
I see, then, that we must apply all our powers of reasoning to know what reason is and in how many ways it can be defined, so that the immortality of the soul may be established according to all of them. Reason is the gaze of the mind by which it beholds the true through itself, not through the body; or the contemplation itself of the true, not through the body; or the true itself which it contemplates. No one doubts that the first is in the mind. About the second and third one may ask; but the second too cannot exist without the mind. About the third there is a great question: whether that truth which the mind beholds without the instrument of the body exists through itself and is not in the mind, or whether it can exist without the mind. But however that may be, the mind could not contemplate it through itself except by some union with it. For everything we contemplate, or grasp in thought, we grasp either by sense or by intellect. But the things grasped by sense are perceived to be outside us as well, and are contained in places, from which it is affirmed that they cannot even be perceived. But the things that are understood are not understood as placed anywhere other than the mind that understands them; for they are understood at the same time not to be contained in place. Therefore this union of the beholding mind and the truth it beholds is either such that the mind is the subject and that truth is in the subject; or, conversely, the truth is the subject and the mind is in the subject; or both are substances. If the first of these three is so, the mind is as immortal as reason, according to the earlier discussion, because reason can be in nothing but what lives. The same necessity holds in the second. For if that truth which is called reason has nothing changeable, as is evident, nothing can be changed which is in it as in a subject. So the whole contest remains over the third. For if the mind is a substance, and reason, to which it is joined, is a substance, someone might not absurdly think it possible that, while reason remains, the mind should cease to exist. But it is clear that as long as the mind is not separated from reason and clings to it, it necessarily remains and lives. And by what force can it be separated? By a bodily one, whose power is weaker, whose origin is lower, and whose order is more removed? In no way. By an animate one, then? But in what way? Can another mind, whichever is more powerful, not contemplate reason unless it separates the first from it? But reason would not fail anyone contemplating it, even if all contemplated it; and since nothing is more powerful than reason itself, than which nothing is more unchangeable, in no way will a mind not yet joined to reason be more powerful than one that is joined. It remains that either reason itself separates the mind from itself, or the mind itself is separated from it by its own will. But there is no envy in that nature to keep it from offering itself to the mind to be enjoyed. Further, the more it exists, the more it makes whatever is joined to it exist, and perishing is the contrary of this. And someone might say not too absurdly that the mind is separated from reason by will, if there could be any separation from one another of things that place does not contain. This indeed can be said against all the preceding arguments, to which we have opposed other objections. What then? Must we now conclude that the mind is immortal? Or, even if it cannot be separated, can it be extinguished? But if that power of reason affects the mind by its very union (and it cannot fail to affect it), it surely affects it in such a way as to give it being. For reason itself exists in the highest degree, where the highest unchangeableness too is understood. So the mind that it affects from itself it compels in a certain way to exist. Therefore the mind cannot be extinguished unless separated from reason; but it cannot be separated, as we reasoned above; so it cannot perish.
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Summary: Defining reason as the mind's gaze, its contemplation, or the truth contemplated, Augustine argues that the mind joined to reason cannot be separated from it by any power, and that reason, which supremely is, gives the mind being, so that it cannot perish.
- “From which it is affirmed that they cannot even be perceived”: so the printed text (“unde nec percipi quidem posse affirmantur”); some editions omit “nec” (“not”), giving “from which, it is affirmed, they can be perceived”, which suits the argument better. The Maurist section number 11 left in the digital text (“ii.”) is removed.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; leaked footnote digit; leaked section number; split word and OCR slip): quotics → quoties; Primnm → Primum; non sil in animo → non sit in animo; quoe sensu → quae sensu; loco. ii. Quare → loco. Quare; ani. mus, vcrum → animus, verum; terlio → tertio; conjungitur1; → conjungitur;; ct potentia infirmior, ct origo → et potentia infirmior, et origo; alter anianus → alter animus; scpa → sepa; cst conjunctus → est conjunctus; seNa → sepa; Dcinde → Deinde; inviccm → invicem; SII → su; ilia rationis → illa rationis; etione afficit → ctione afficit; rado, ubi → ratio, ubi; incommulabili → incommutabili; afficit1, → afficit,.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 6 (PL 32:1025–1027; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 7
7PL 32:1027
At enim aversio ipsa a ratione per quam stul titia contingit animo, sine defectu ejus fieri non potest: si enim magis est ad rationem conversus eique inhaerens, ideo quod inhaeret incommutabili rei quæ est veritas, quae et maxime et primitus est; cum ab ea est aversus, idipsum esse mi nus habet, quod est deficere. Omnis autem defectus tendit ad nihilum; et interitum nullum magis proprie oportet accipi, quam cum id, quod aliquid erat, nihil fit. Quare tendere ad nihilum, est ad interitum ten dere. Qui cur non cadat in animum, vix est dicere, in quem defectus cadit. Dantur hic caetera: sed ne gatur esse consequens interire id quod tendit ad nihi lum, id est ad nihilum pervenire. Quod in corpore quoque animadverti potest. Nam quoniam quodlibet corpus pars est mundi sensibilis, et ideo quanto majus est locique plus occupat, tanto magis propinquat uni versu: quantoque id magis facit, tanto magis est. Magis enim est totum quam pars. Quare etiam mi nus sit, cum minuitur, necesse est. Defectum ergo patitur cum minuitur. Porro autem minuitur, cum ex eo aliquid praecisione detrahitur. Ex quo coniicitur ut tali detractione tendat ad nihilum. At nulla præ cisio perducit ad nihilum. Omnis enim pars quae re manet, corpus est, et quidquid hoc est, quantolibet spatio locum occupat. Neque id posset, nisi haberet partes in quas identidem cæderetur. Potest igitur in finite cædendo infinite minui, et ideo defectum pati atque ad nihilum tendere, quamvis pervenire nun quam queat. Quod item de ipso spatio et quolibet in tervallo dici atque intelligi potest. Nam et de his etiam terminatis, dimidiam, verbi gratia, partem detrahendo, et ex eo quod restat, semper dimidiam, minuitur intervallum, atque ad finem progreditur, ad quem tamen nullo pervenitur modo. Quo minus hoc de animo formidandum est. Est enim profecto cor pore melior et vivacior, a quo huic vita tribuitur.
But, it is said, the turning away from reason itself, through which folly befalls the mind, cannot happen without some failing of the mind. For if it exists more when it is turned toward reason and clings to it, because it clings to the unchangeable thing which is truth, which exists both supremely and first, then when it is turned away from it, it has less of being itself, and that is to fail. And every failing tends toward nothing; and perishing is to be understood in no more proper sense than when what was something becomes nothing. Therefore to tend toward nothing is to tend toward perishing. Why this should not befall the mind, to which failing does befall, is hard to say. Here the rest is granted; but it is denied that it follows that what tends toward nothing perishes, that is, reaches nothing. This can be observed in the body too. For since any body is a part of the sensible world, the greater it is and the more place it occupies, the nearer it comes to the universe; and the more it does this, the more it exists. For the whole exists more than the part. So when it is diminished, it must also exist less. So it suffers failing when it is diminished. Further, it is diminished when something is taken from it by cutting off. From this it follows that by such taking away it tends toward nothing. But no cutting off brings it to nothing. For every part that remains is a body, and whatever it is occupies place in some extent of space. Nor could it do so unless it had parts into which it could be cut again and again. So by being cut infinitely it can be diminished infinitely, and therefore suffer failing and tend toward nothing, although it can never reach it. The same can be said and understood of space itself and of any interval. For from these too, even when they are bounded, by taking away, for example, half, and always half of what remains, the interval is diminished and moves toward an end which nevertheless is in no way reached. So much the less is this to be feared for the mind. For it is surely better and more alive than the body, since life is given to the body by it.
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Summary: Augustine answers the objection that turning from reason makes the mind tend toward nothing, by showing that even a body, though infinitely divisible, tends toward nothing without ever reaching it; much less can the mind.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): eum ab ea est aversus → cum ab ea est aversus; nus babet → nus habet; nulluln → nullum; aliquid crat → aliquid erat; gator esse → gatur esse; idco → ideo; Magis enim * est → Magis enim est; ex co quod → ex eo quod; fincm → finem; hoc. de animo → hoc de animo; ct vivacior → et vivacior.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 7 (PL 32:1027; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 8
8PL 32:1027–1029
Quod si non id quod est in mole corporis, sed id quod in specie facit corpus esse, quæ seu tentia invictiore ratione approbatur: tanto enim ma gis est corpus, quanto speciosius est atque pulchrius; tantoque minus est, quanto foedius ac deformius; quæ defectio non præcisione molis, de qua jam satis actum est, sed speciei privatione contingit: quærendum de hac re diligenter ac discutiendum est, ne quis affirmet animum tali defectu interire; ut quoniam specie aliqua sua privatur dum stultus est, credatur in tantum augeri posse hanc privationem, ut omni modo specie spoliet animum, et ea labe ad nihilum redigat cogatque in terire. Quamobrem si potuerimus impetrare ut osten datur, ne corpori quidem hoc posse accidere, ut etiam ea specie privetur qua corpus est; jure fortasse obti nebimus multo minus auferri posse animo quo animus est. Siquidem nemo se bene inspexit, qui non omni corpori qualemlibet animum praeponendum esse fa teatur. Sit igitur nostrae ratiocinationis exordium, quod nulla res se facit aut gignit, alioquin erat antequam esset: quod si falsum est, illud est verum. Item quod factum ortumve non est, et tamen est, sempiternum sit necesse est. Quam naturam et excellentiam quisquis ulli corpori dat, errat vehementer quidem. Sed quid pugnamus? multo enim magis eam dare animo cogi mur. Ita si corpus ullum est sempiternum, nullus animus non sempiternus est. Quoniam quilibet ani mus cuilibet corpori praeferendus est, et omnia sem piterna non sempiternis. At si quod vere dicitur, fa ctum est corpus; aliquo faciente factum est, nec eo inferiore. Neque enim esset potens ad dandam ei quod faceret, quidquid illud est quod est, id quod faciebat. Sed ne pari quidem: oportet enim facientem melius aliquid habere ad faciendum, quam est id quod facit. Nam de gignente non absurde dicitur, hoc eum esse, quod est illud quod ab eo gignitur. Universum igitur corpus ab aliqua vi et natura potentiore atque meliore factum est, non utique corporea. Nam si corpus a corpore factum est, non potuit universum fieri. Ve rissimum est enim quod in exordio ratiocinationis hujus posuimus, nullam rem a se posse fieri. Hæc autem vis et natura incorporea effectrix corporis universi præsente potentia tenet universum. Non enim fecit, atque discessit effectumque deseruit. Ea quippe substantia quae corpus non est, neque, ut ita dicam, localiter movetur, ut ab ea substantia quae locum obtinet, separari queat; et illa effectoria vis vacare non potest, quin id quod ab ea factum est, tueatur, et specie carere non sinat, qua est in quantumcumque est. Quod enim per se non est, si destituatur ab eo per quod est, profecto non erit: et non possumus dicere id accepisse corpus cum factum est, ut seipso jam contentum esse posset, etiamsi a conditore dese reretur. Quanquam si ita est, magis id habet animus, quem corpori praestare manifestum est. Atque ita de proximo immortalis probatur, si potest esse per seipsum. Quidquid enim tale est, incorruptibile sit necesse est, ac per hoc interire non possit, quia ni hil se deserit. Sed corporis mutabilitas in promptu est, quod ipsius universi corporis universus motus satis indicat. Unde diligenter inspicientibus quantum talis natura inspici potest, ordinata mutabilitate id quod immutabile est imitari reperitur. Quod autem per se est, ne motu quidem opus habet ullo, omni copia sibi seipso existente; quia motus omnis ad aliud est, cujus indiget quod movetur. Adest igitur species universo corpori, meliore natura sufficiente atque obtinente quæ fecit: quare illa mutabilitas non adimit corpori corpus esse, sed de specie in speciem transire facit motu ordinatissimo. Non enim quæpiam ejus pars ad nihilum redigi sinitur, cum totum capes sat vis illa effectoria nec laborante nec deside poten tia, dans ut sit omne quod per illam est, in quantum est: quamobrem nemo tam devius a ratione debet esse, cui aut non sit certum corpore animum esse meliorem, aut qui hoc concesso arbitretur corpori non accidere ut corpus non sit, animo accidere ut ani mus non sit. Quod si non accidit, neque animus esse nisi vivat, potest, nunquam profecto animus moritur.
But suppose that what makes a body exist is not what is in its bulk but what is in its form, a view proved by more invincible reasoning; for a body exists the more, the more shapely and beautiful it is, and the less, the uglier and more deformed it is; and this failing comes about not by cutting off bulk, which has been dealt with enough already, but by loss of form. Then this matter must be carefully examined and discussed, lest anyone affirm that the mind perishes by such a failing: that since it is deprived of some form of its own while it is foolish, it may be believed that this deprivation can be increased so far as to strip the mind of form altogether, reduce it by that ruin to nothing, and force it to perish. Therefore, if we can succeed in showing that not even to a body can it happen that it is deprived of the form by which it is a body, we shall perhaps rightly maintain that much less can that by which the mind is mind be taken from the mind. For no one has looked at himself well who does not admit that any mind whatever is to be preferred to every body. Let the starting point of our reasoning, then, be this: that nothing makes or begets itself; otherwise it existed before it existed. If that is false, this is true. Again, what has not been made or come to be, and yet exists, must be everlasting. Whoever gives this nature and excellence to any body is greatly mistaken. But why do we contend? For we are much more compelled to give it to the mind. So if any body is everlasting, no mind is not everlasting, since any mind is to be preferred to any body, and all everlasting things to things not everlasting. But if, as is truly said, body has been made, it was made by some maker, and not by an inferior one. For he would not be able to give to what he made that which he was making, whatever it is that it is. Nor by an equal: for the maker must have something better for making than what he makes. For of a begetter it is not absurdly said that he is what that which is begotten by him is. So the whole of body has been made by some power and nature more powerful and better, and certainly not bodily. For if body was made by body, the whole could not have been made. For what we set down at the start of this reasoning is most true, that nothing can be made by itself. And this incorporeal power and nature, the maker of the whole of body, holds the whole by its present power. For it did not make it and then depart and abandon what it had made. For the substance which is not body, and does not, so to speak, move from place to place, cannot be separated from the substance that occupies place; and that making power cannot be idle from preserving what it has made and not letting it lack the form by which it exists, as far as it exists. For what does not exist through itself will certainly not exist if it is abandoned by that through which it exists; and we cannot say that the body received, when it was made, the ability to be content with itself even if it were abandoned by its creator. Yet if it is so, the mind, which clearly excels the body, has this more. And so it is proved immortal at once, if it can exist through itself. For whatever is such must be incorruptible and therefore cannot perish, because nothing abandons itself. But the changeableness of body is plain to see, as the universal motion of the whole universe of body shows well enough. Hence, to those who look carefully, as far as such a nature can be looked into, it is found to imitate by ordered changeableness what is unchangeable. But what exists through itself does not even need any motion, since it is wholly sufficient to itself; for every motion is toward something else, which what is moved lacks. So form is present to the whole of body, a better nature, the one that made it, sustaining and holding it. Therefore that changeableness does not take from body its being body, but makes it pass from form to form by a most ordered motion. For no part of it is allowed to be reduced to nothing, since that making power embraces the whole with a power neither laboring nor idle, granting to everything that exists through it that it exist, as far as it exists. Therefore no one should be so far astray from reason as either not to be certain that the mind is better than the body, or, granting this, to think that it does not happen to the body that it is not body, but happens to the mind that it is not mind. And if this does not happen, and the mind cannot exist unless it lives, then surely the mind never dies.
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Summary: Since body is made and kept in being by an incorporeal Maker who never lets it lose its form entirely, much less can the mind, which is better than any body, lose what makes it mind; so it never dies.
- The incorporeal power that made and sustains all body is God, though he is not named here.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; joined words; split word; stray mark): speciosius cst → speciosius est; discuticndum → discutiendum; bac re → hac re; ca labe → ea labe; corpori quidcm → corpori quidem; beue → bene; ratiOcinationis → ratiocinationis; quod ' factum → quod factum; etexcellentiam → et excellentiam; crrat → errat; oportet euim → oportet enim; faciL Nam → facit. Nam; uni - versi → universi; Non euim fecit → Non enim fecit; qum id quod → quin id quod; pra'stare → praestare; Atque ila → Atque ita; uuiversus → universus; reperilurf → reperitur; ne motu quidem opus babet → ne motu quidem opus habet; lia, dans → tia, dans.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 8 (PL 32:1027–1029; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 9
9PL 32:1029
Quod si quisquam non eum interitum dicit for midandum animo, quo efficitur ut nihil sit quod ali quid fuit, sed eum quo dicimus ea mortua quae vita carent; attendat quod nulla res seipsa caret. Est au tem animus vita quædam: unde omne quod anima tum est, vivere; omne autem inanime quod animari potest, mortuum, id est vita privatum intelligitur. Non ergo potest animus mori. Nam si carere pot erit vita, non animus sed animatum aliquid est. Quod si absurdum est, multo minus hoc genus interi tus timendum est animo, quod vitae certe non est timendum. Nam prorsus si tunc moritur animus, cum eum deserit vita illa; ipsa vita quæ hunc deserit multo melius intelligitur animus, ut jam non sit ani mus quidquid a vita deseritur, sed ea ipsa vita quae deserit. Quidquid enim vita desertum mortuum dici tur, id ab anima desertum intelligitur: haec autem vita, quæ deserit ea quæ moriuntur, quia ipsa est animus, et seipsam non deserit; non moritur ani mus.
But if anyone says that the mind should not fear the perishing by which what was something becomes nothing, but the one by which we call dead those things that lack life, let him note that nothing lacks itself. Now the mind is a kind of life: hence everything that is animated is understood to live, and everything inanimate that can be animated is understood to be dead, that is, deprived of life. So the mind cannot die. For if it could lack life, it would not be mind but something animated. And if this is absurd, much less is this kind of perishing to be feared for the mind, since it is certainly not to be feared for life. For if the mind dies when that life leaves it, then the very life that leaves it is much better understood to be the mind; so that whatever is left by life is no longer the mind, but the mind is the very life that leaves. For whatever is called dead when left by life is understood to be left by the soul; but this life, which leaves the things that die, since it is itself the mind and does not leave itself, the mind does not die.
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Summary: The mind is itself a kind of life, and since nothing lacks itself, the mind cannot be deprived of life and so cannot die.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): lum est, vivere → tum est, vivere; tas timendum → tus timendum; quod viue certe → quod vitae certe; descrit → deserit; Quidquid enim. vita → Quidquid enim vita; hoec autem → haec autem; ipsa es: animus → ipsa est animus; morilur → moritur.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 9 (PL 32:1029; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 10
10PL 32:1029
Nisi forte vitam temperationem aliquam corpo ris, ut nonnulli opinati sunt, debemus credere. Quibus profecto nunquam hoc visum esset, si ea quae vere sunt et incommutabilia permanent, eodem animo a corporum consuetudine alienato atque purgato videre valuissent. Quis enim bene se inspiciens, non exper tus est tanto se aliquid intellexisse sincerius, quanto removere atque subducere intentionem mentis a cor poris sensibus potuit? Quod si temperatio corporis esset animus, non utique id posset accidere. Non enim ea res quae naturam propriam non haberet, ne que substantia esset, sed in subjecto corpore tan quam color et forma inseparabiliter inesset, ullo modo se ab eodem corpore ad intelligibilia perci pienda conaretur avertere, et in quantum id posset, in tantum illa posset intueri, eaque visione melior et praestantior fieri. Nullo quippe modo forma vel color, vel ipsa etiam corporis temperatio, quæ certa commixtio est earum quatuor naturarum quibus idem corpus subsistit, avertere se ab eo potest, in quo subjecto est inseparabiliter. Ad haec, ea quæ intelli git animus cum se avertit a corpore, non sunt pro fecto corporea; et tamen sunt, maximeque sunt, nam eodem modo semper sese habent. Nam nihil absurdius dici potest quam ea esse quæ oculis vide mus, ea non esse quae intelligentia cernimus; cum dubitare dementis sit, intelligentiam incomparabiliter oculis anteferri. Haec autem quae intelliguntur eodem modo sese habentia, cum ea intuetur animus, satis ostendit se illis esse conjunctum, miro quodam eo demque incorporali modo, scilicet non localiter. Namque aut in illo sunt, aut ipse in illis. Et utrumlibet horum sit, aut in subjecto alterum in altero est, aut utrumque substantia est. Sed si illud primum est, non est in subjecto corpore animus, ut color et for ma: quia vel ipse substantia est, vel alteri substan tiae quae corpus non est, in subjecto inest. Si autem hoc secundum verum est, non est in subjecto cor pore tanquam color animus, quia substantia est. Temperatio autem corporis in subjecto corpore est tanquam color: non est ergo temperatio corporis animus, sed vita est animus: et se nulla res deserit; et id moritur quod vita deserit: non igitur animus mori potest.
Unless perhaps we ought to believe that life is some tempering of the body, as some have thought. Surely this would never have seemed so to them if they had been able to see the things that truly exist and remain unchangeable, with the same mind estranged and cleansed from its habituation to bodies. For who that has looked at himself well has not found that he understood something the more clearly the more he could withdraw and draw away the attention of his mind from the senses of the body? But if the mind were a tempering of the body, this could certainly not happen. For a thing that had no nature of its own and was not a substance, but was inseparably in the body as its subject, like color and shape, would in no way try to turn itself away from that same body to perceive intelligible things; nor, in so far as it could do this, could it behold them in that degree, and become better and more excellent by that vision. For in no way can shape or color, or even the tempering of the body itself, which is a certain mixture of the four natures of which that body consists, turn itself away from that in which it is inseparably as in a subject. Besides, the things that the mind understands when it turns away from the body are certainly not bodily; and yet they exist, and exist in the highest degree, for they are always in the same state. For nothing more absurd can be said than that the things we see with the eyes exist, and the things we discern with the understanding do not exist, since it would be madness to doubt that the understanding is incomparably to be preferred to the eyes. And these things that are understood, being always in the same state, when the mind beholds them, show well enough that it is joined to them in a wonderful and likewise incorporeal way, namely not in place. For either they are in it or it is in them. And whichever of these is so, either one is in the other as in a subject, or each is a substance. But if the first is so, the mind is not in the body as its subject, like color and shape, because either it is itself a substance or it is in another substance, which is not a body, as in a subject. And if the second is true, the mind is not in the body as its subject like color, because it is a substance. But the tempering of the body is in the body as its subject, like color. So the tempering of the body is not the mind; but the mind is life; and nothing leaves itself; and that dies which life leaves; so the mind cannot die.
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Summary: Augustine refutes the view that the soul is a tempering or mixture of the body: the mind can turn away from the body to behold intelligible things, which no bodily quality could do, so it is a substance and cannot die.
- The view that the soul is a “tempering” (temperatio) of the four elements of the body was held by some ancient physicians and philosophers; cf. section 2 on the soul as a harmony.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; split word): fortc → forte; si ca quoe vere → si ea quae vere; nun exper → non exper; csset → esset; inseparabilitcr → inseparabiliter; fleri → fieri; co. lor → color; corpOris → corporis; Ln quo → in quo; recto corporea → fecto corporea; eodcm → eodem; qiuc intelligentia → quae intelligentia; Ilxc autem → Haec autem; com ea intuetur → cum ea intuetur; eSI, non → est, non; Ht color → ut color; subjecto eor → subjecto cor; colar → color.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Imm. an. 10 (PL 32:1029; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-immortalitate-animae/1/#p-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); no public-domain English translation exists, so each batch was checked afterwards privately against a modern translation (never quoted or copied); the Latin decides.