A Plea for the Christians 17

Summary: The names of the gods come from the poets, and their images from recent sculptors whose names are known; such gods are younger than their makers.

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Greek text · Otto 7:74–80

Ἀνάγκη δὲ ἀπολογούμενον ἀκριβεστέρους παρέχειν τοὺς λογισμοὺς καὶ περὶ τῶν ὀνομάτων, ὅτι νεώτερα, καὶ περὶ τῶν εἰκόνων, ὅτι χθὲς καὶ πρώην γεγόνασιν, ὡς λόγῳ εἰπεῖν· ἴστε δὲ καὶ ὑμεῖς ταῦτα ἀξιολογώτερον, ὡς ἂν ἐν πᾶσι καὶ ὑπὲρ πάντας τοῖς παλαιοῖς συγγινόμενοι. Φημὶ οὖν Ὀρφέα καὶ Ὅμηρον καὶ Ἡσίοδον εἶναι τοὺς καὶ γένη καὶ ὀνόματα δόντας τοῖς ὑπʼ αὐτῶν λεγομένοις θεοῖς. Μαρτυρεῖ δὲ καὶ Ἡρόδοτος· Ἡσίοδον γὰρ καὶ Ὅμηρον ἡλικίην τετρακοσίοις ἔτεσι δοκέω πρεσβυτέρους ἐμοῦ γενέσθαι, καὶ οὐ πλείοσι· οὗτοι δέ εἰσιν οἱ ποιήσαντες θεογονίην Ἕλλησι, καὶ τοῖσι θεοῖσι τὰς ἐπωνυμίας δόντες καὶ τιμάς τε καὶ τέχνας διελόντες, καὶ εἴδεα αὐτῶν σημήναντες. Αἱ δʼ εἰκόνες, μέχρι μήπω πλαστικὴ καὶ γραφικὴ καὶ ἀνδριαντοποιητικὴ ἦσαν, οὐδὲ ἐνομίζοντο, Σαυρίου δὲ τοῦ Σαμίου καὶ Κράτωνος τοῦ Σικυωνίου καὶ Κλεάνθους τοῦ Κορινθίου καὶ κόρης Κορινθίας ἐπιγενομένων· καὶ σκιαγραφίας μὲν εὑρεθείσης ὑπὸ Σαυρίου, ἵππον ἐν ἡλίῳ περιγράψαντος, γραφικῆς δὲ ὑπὸ Κράτωνος, ἐν πίνακι λελευκωμένῳ σκιὰς ἀνδρὸς καὶ γυναικὸς ἐναλείψαντος· ἀπὸ δὲ τῆς κόρης ἡ κοροπλαθικὴ εὑρέθη· ἐρωτικῶς γάρ τινος ἔχουσα περιέγραψεν αὐτοῦ κοιμωμένου ἐν τοίχῳ τὴν σκιάν, εἶθʼ ὁ πατήρ, ἡσθεὶς ἀπαραλλάκτῳ οὔσῃ τῇ ὁμοιότητι, (κέραμον δὲ εἰργάζετο) ἀναγλύψας τὴν περιγραφὴν πηλῷ προσανεπλήρωσεν· ὁ τύπος ἔτι καὶ νῦν ἐν Κορίνθῳ σώζεται. Τούτοις δὲ ἐπιγενόμενοι Δαίδαλος καὶ Θεόδωρος ὁ Μιλήσιος ἀνδριαντοποιητικὴν καὶ πλαστικὴν προσεξεῦρον. Ὁ μὲν δὴ χρόνος ὀλίγος τοσοῦτος ταῖς εἰκόσι καὶ τῇ περὶ τὰ εἴδωλα πραγματείᾳ, ὡς ἔχειν εἰπεῖν τὸν ἑκάστου τεχνίτην θεοῦ. Τὸ μὲν γὰρ ἐν Ἐφέσῳ τῆς Ἀρτέμιδος καὶ τὸ τῆς Ἀθηνᾶς (μᾶλλον δὲ Ἀθηλᾶς· Ἀθηλᾶ γὰρ ὡς οἱ μυστικώτερον, οὕτω γὰρ τὸ ἀπὸ τῆς ἐλαίας τὸ παλαιὸν) καὶ τὴν καθημένην Ἔνδοιος εἰργάσατο μαθητὴς Δαιδάλου, ὁ δὲ Πύθιος ἔργον Θεοδώρου καὶ Τηλεκλέους, καὶ ὁ Δήλιος καὶ ἡ Ἄρτεμις Τεκταίου καὶ Ἀγγελίωνος τέχνη, ἡ δὲ ἐν Σάμῳ Ἥρα καὶ ἐν Ἄργει Σμίλιδος χεῖρες, καὶ Φειδίου τὰ λοιπὰ εἴδωλα, ἡ Ἀφροδίτη ἐν Κνίδῳ ἑταίρα Πραξιτέλους τέχνη, ὁ ἐν Ἐπιδαύρῳ Ἀσκληπιὸς ἔργον Φειδίου. Συνελόντα φάναι, οὐδὲν αὐτῶν διαπέφευγεν τὸ μὴ ὑπʼ ἀνθρώπου γεγονέναι. Εἰ τοίνυν θεοί, τί οὐκ ἦσαν ἐξ ἀρχῆς; Τί δαί εἰσι νεώτεροι τῶν πεποιηκότων; Τί δαὶ ἔδει αὐτοῖς πρὸς τὸ γενέσθαι ἀνθρώπων καὶ τέχνης; Γῆ ταῦτα καὶ λίθοι καὶ ὕλη καὶ περίεργος τέχνη.

English · Claude translation

In making a defense I must give more precise arguments both about the names of the gods, to show that they are recent, and about their images, to show that they came into being yesterday or the day before, so to speak. You yourselves know these things better, since you are in every respect conversant with the ancient writers, more than anyone else. I say, then, that Orpheus, Homer, and Hesiod are the ones who gave genealogies and names to those they call gods. Herodotus too bears witness: “I think that Hesiod and Homer lived four hundred years before my time, and not more; and it was they who made a theogony for the Greeks, gave the gods their titles, distributed their honors and skills, and described their forms.” As for images, they were not even thought of as long as there was no modeling, painting, or sculpture, until Saurias of Samos, Craton of Sicyon, Cleanthes of Corinth, and the Corinthian girl came along. Shadow-drawing was invented by Saurias, who traced the outline of a horse in the sunlight; painting by Craton, who painted the shadows of a man and a woman on a whitened tablet; and modeling in relief was invented by the girl. She was in love with someone, and traced the outline of his shadow on the wall while he slept; then her father, delighted with the exact likeness (he was a potter), cut out the outline and filled it in with clay; the figure is preserved at Corinth to this day. After these came Daedalus and Theodorus of Miletus, who further invented sculpture and modeling. So short is the time since images and the making of idols began that we can name the craftsman of each god. The Artemis at Ephesus, the Athena (or rather Athela, as those who speak more mystically call her, for such was the ancient statue made from the olive), and the seated Athena were made by Endoeus, a pupil of Daedalus; the Pythian Apollo is the work of Theodorus and Telecles; the Delian Apollo and Artemis are the art of Tectaeus and Angelion; the Hera at Samos and the one at Argos are by the hands of Smilis; the other idols are by Phidias; the Aphrodite at Cnidus is another work of Praxiteles's art; the Asclepius at Epidaurus is the work of Phidias. In short, not one of them escapes having been made by a human being. If, then, they are gods, why did they not exist from the beginning? Why are they younger than those who made them? Why did they need human beings and art in order to come into being? They are earth and stones and matter and elaborate art.

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Otto 7:74–80 · Johann Carl Theodor Otto, ed., Athenagorae philosophi Atheniensis opera, Corpus apologetarum Christianorum saeculi secundi 7 (Jena: Mauke, 1857) · Greek text: J. C. T. Otto, Athenagorae philosophi Atheniensis opera (Corpus apologetarum Christianorum saeculi secundi 7, 1857), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Otto, CorpApol 7. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-26 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Otto (1857); made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 2 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Extrabiblical texts
  • Herodotus, Hist. 2.53 (Herodotus, Histories) · quotation, high confidence

Notes

Translation notes

  • Herodotus, Histories 2.53.
  • “Another work” follows the obvious sense; the printed text has ἑταίρα (“courtesan”) where ἑτέρα (“another”) is expected. The Cnidian Aphrodite was said to be modeled on the courtesan Phryne, so the word may be a deliberate jibe.

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Athenagoras, Leg. 17 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athenagoras-legatio/17/).

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Athenagoras, Leg. 17 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/athenagoras-legatio/17/).

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